Nissan LEAF - General

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#191715 13-Feb-2016 19:20

I've been thinking about buying a Nissan Leaf for my around town driving (95% of it).

This morning, I checked the Nissan web site ...and found it appeared to be down completely.

When it came back toward mid-day, the Nissan Leaf was nowhere to be found.

It's gone.

Googling "Nissan LEAF NZ" gets me the nissan.co.nz weblink for the LEAF.....but it now 404's.

OK.....I can get an imported LEAF from an importer.....but I was looking for the brand new real, local deal. :-(

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#1491742 13-Feb-2016 19:27

Bugger.

Friend who has one and is active in the owners groups mentioned that Nissan had sold out several months ago and third party importers were the only sources now.

Nissan had dropped the price of the Leafs by $20k from when they originally went on sale from $60k (see the AA web-article on electric cars) to $40k so he was wondering whether they just dropped the price to clear them.

Was/am thinking of getting one as a second car for round town but would prefer to buy from dealer for warrantee etc.

I wonder what will happen now....

If the website gone 404, I worry it suggests they have abandoned them rather than waiting for the new version..

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#1491747 13-Feb-2016 19:37

afe66:

If the website gone 404, I worry it suggests they have abandoned them rather than waiting for the new version..

I share your concern. :-)

I'll probably get an import. Just for the experience. In a couple of years there should be reasonable EVs with better range.

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#1491753 13-Feb-2016 19:41

Just get the import. A colleague of mine just got one and is pretty happy with it. The imports are newer models than what they sold in NZ anyway.

He started a blog: https://nissanleafev.wordpress.com/

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#1491763 13-Feb-2016 19:59

Oncop53:

Just get the import. A colleague of mine just got one and is pretty happy with it. The imports are newer models than what they sold in NZ anyway.

He started a blog: https://nissanleafev.wordpress.com/

Looks like that's the plan. :-)

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#1491797 13-Feb-2016 21:52

afe66:
Bugger.

Friend who has one and is active in the owners groups mentioned that Nissan had sold out several months ago and third party importers were the only sources now.

Nissan had dropped the price of the Leafs by $20k from when they originally went on sale from $60k (see the AA web-article on electric cars) to $40k so he was wondering whether they just dropped the price to clear them.

Was/am thinking of getting one as a second car for round town but would prefer to buy from dealer for warrantee etc.

I wonder what will happen now....

If the website gone 404, I worry it suggests they have abandoned them rather than waiting for the new version..

A.

I understood the price drop was because Nissan nz bought a cancelled rhd batch that some other country cancelled. That's why they reckoned they could afford to drop the price so much. That is also why they were an older model with less battery/distance than you would see on some imports.
Sad that ev's cant get onto the markets here.

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#1491986 14-Feb-2016 11:56

robjg63: Sad that ev's cant get onto the markets here.

The price needs to come down before they become big sellers in any country that doesn't throw massive subsidies at them. At the current price they just don't make economic sense for most people.

NZ has a small subsidy due to not charging RUCs on electric vehicles but this nothing compared to the many thousands some other countries provide.

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#1492413 15-Feb-2016 09:04

graemeh:

robjg63: Sad that ev's cant get onto the markets here.

The price needs to come down before they become big sellers in any country that doesn't throw massive subsidies at them. At the current price they just don't make economic sense for most people.

NZ has a small subsidy due to not charging RUCs on electric vehicles but this nothing compared to the many thousands some other countries provide.

Though it is worth noting the exemptions from RUCs applies to the life of the vehicle and the owner benefits, while the subsidy is a one-off to the car maker who then discounts the price to the owner (or it may be applied at time of sale?). Over time, the RUC exemption could be worth more than the subsidy for anyone who drives a fair bit.

The RUC exemption would be about $500 / year for anyone driving - say - 15,000km / year.

Yes, this also applies to petrol cars (as far as I know), but not to diesel cars.

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#1492438 15-Feb-2016 09:56

Linuxluver:

Though it is worth noting the exemptions from RUCs applies to the life of the vehicle and the owner benefits,

Has the govt actually committed to that? I thought it was just zero rated at the moment because there were so few it wasnt worth figuring out how to charge it.

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#1492440 15-Feb-2016 09:58

Just buy a Tesla? Or do they not sell them here?

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#1492453 15-Feb-2016 10:11

How do they charge (lol pun) you for charging up an EV at those charging points in towns?

Do you establish an account or pay by eftpos etc?

Do they offer a quick top up charge mode to get you going, or do you have to keep your car there for many many hours?

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#1492488 15-Feb-2016 10:44

Oh COME ON GUYS!?....

Why not phone Nissan and ask?

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#1492496 15-Feb-2016 10:48

Talkiet:

Oh COME ON GUYS!?....

Why not phone Nissan and ask?

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It never ceases to amaze me some of the questions and discussions that exist here, that wouldn't need to exist with 1 phone call :)

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#1492556 15-Feb-2016 12:26

mmm probably lost faith with using the phone to contact contact companies.

Lots of posts here about how someone had a problem and they rang someone and got a quick answer. ;-)

Decided to use this twitter thing I've read about.

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#1492560 15-Feb-2016 12:35

Linuxluver:

graemeh:

robjg63: Sad that ev's cant get onto the markets here.

The price needs to come down before they become big sellers in any country that doesn't throw massive subsidies at them. At the current price they just don't make economic sense for most people.

NZ has a small subsidy due to not charging RUCs on electric vehicles but this nothing compared to the many thousands some other countries provide.

Though it is worth noting the exemptions from RUCs applies to the life of the vehicle and the owner benefits, while the subsidy is a one-off to the car maker who then discounts the price to the owner (or it may be applied at time of sale?). Over time, the RUC exemption could be worth more than the subsidy for anyone who drives a fair bit.

The RUC exemption would be about $500 / year for anyone driving - say - 15,000km / year.

Yes, this also applies to petrol cars (as far as I know), but not to diesel cars.

I didn't realise the RUC exemption was for the life of the vehicle.

Petrol cars pay the equivalent of RUC charges as an extra tax on fuel, that one of the reasons petrol is so much more expensive than diesel.

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#1492561 15-Feb-2016 12:36

afe66:

mmm probably lost faith with using the phone to contact contact companies.

Lots of posts here about how someone had a problem and they rang someone and got a quick answer. ;-)

Decided to use this twitter thing I've read about.

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I called today and Nissan themselves didn't want to answer questions, but a big dealer said he had heard rumors they were pulling them out of NZ due to ongoing supply issues. To make it feasible, they need a certain volume, and they can SELL enough, but can't supply them for the foreseeable future.

He said that on the promise of anonymity.

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