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#2308869 31-Aug-2019 19:36

varix:

Was the dudes name Joji by chance? I dealt with him when I was there a few months ago and placed my order. He was awesome, he was my direct contact up until talking to NZ regarding delivery.

I never asked his name sorry. Was at Ala Moana store.

I was quite surprised by the attention. The traditional car dealership model wouldn't be interested in people on holiday... Obviously Tesla's strategy

Linuxluver:

JAG has said RUC for EVs will be lower.

Any chance you can quote a source? Very interested.

As others have said, 7.3c/km RUC's makes the likes of a prius cheaper (or similar) to run than an EV . Obviously this would put people off...

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Linuxluver:

Lets say 7km / kWh.

Do you actually get that efficiency? (measuring power from the wall, not the battery)

EPA rated (combined cycle) consumption for a 30 kWh leaf is 18.7 kWh /100km, which works out to 5.35kM / kWh. Well done if you do.

On the other side of the coin, My 24/7 per kWh cost for electricity is 15.74c. I Imagine going on a day / night rate would give much cheaper off peak power.

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#2309434 2-Sep-2019 13:14

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Haha So I contacted Telsa about a test drive and they said the only way to get a test drive, is to put down a deposit to buy one and wait 3-4 weeks!

I was in Auckland just this past weekend and made a point of visiting the Tesla store but I had this very quote in mind. After chatting with the guy about the Model Y (2-3 years away from NZ), comparing the boot of the Model 3 (useless for dog transport) with the Model X (perfect for dog transport!) he says - "You're more than welcome to take one for a test drive, you don't need to be in the market". Might have helped wifey was with me, spending time to get the Model X seat setup with just the right amount of lumbar support... Wife Approval Factor cannot be underestimated!

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#2309437 2-Sep-2019 13:31

JimmyC:

networkn:

Haha So I contacted Telsa about a test drive and they said the only way to get a test drive, is to put down a deposit to buy one and wait 3-4 weeks!

I was in Auckland just this past weekend and made a point of visiting the Tesla store but I had this very quote in mind. After chatting with the guy about the Model Y (2-3 years away from NZ), comparing the boot of the Model 3 (useless for dog transport) with the Model X (perfect for dog transport!) he says - "You're more than welcome to take one for a test drive, you don't need to be in the market". Might have helped wifey was with me, spending time to get the Model X seat setup with just the right amount of lumbar support... Wife Approval Factor cannot be underestimated!

I am sure I'd be OK to get a Model X test drive, it's the Model 3 that seems in demand right now. Unsure, as I didn't follow up esp since I haven't got space for an X series in my garage.

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#2309465 2-Sep-2019 14:02

Scott3:

varix:

Was the dudes name Joji by chance? I dealt with him when I was there a few months ago and placed my order. He was awesome, he was my direct contact up until talking to NZ regarding delivery.

I never asked his name sorry. Was at Ala Moana store.

I was quite surprised by the attention. The traditional car dealership model wouldn't be interested in people on holiday... Obviously Tesla's strategy

Linuxluver:

JAG has said RUC for EVs will be lower.

Any chance you can quote a source? Very interested.

As others have said, 7.3c/km RUC's makes the likes of a prius cheaper (or similar) to run than an EV . Obviously this would put people off...

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Linuxluver:

Lets say 7km / kWh.

Do you actually get that efficiency? (measuring power from the wall, not the battery)

EPA rated (combined cycle) consumption for a 30 kWh leaf is 18.7 kWh /100km, which works out to 5.35kM / kWh. Well done if you do.

On the other side of the coin, My 24/7 per kWh cost for electricity is 15.74c. I Imagine going on a day / night rate would give much cheaper off peak power.

You're right. There is about 8% loss between the wall and the battery. I usually ignore it to keep it simple. It's not a big problem when talking about 20kWh vs 18.5kWh stored....when trying to convey a new concept.

Here's a link to an article that refers to the future of RUC and indicates incentives for EVs. http://evtalk.co.nz/feebate-discussion-launches-evworld-nz-conference/

EPA ratings are too harsh for the NZ context. We just can't drive as fast as Americans can on the long, straight continental-scale highways. My typical efficiency for an entire month - city and highway - is about 6km / kWh......but I do far more highway driving than most LEAF owners.....so many easily reach 7km or even 8km / kWh with the car mainly being a city car and being driven at urban speeds. Many EVs are more efficient than the LEAF. A Hyundai IONIQ easily meets and beats 7km/kWh. That's how it eaily has 15% or more range over the 30kWh LEAF despite having essentially the same about of battery available. The IONIQ also has more aggressive regen....and that improves overall efficiency, too.

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#2309468 2-Sep-2019 14:07

Linuxluver:
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Can a Leaf really do 11,500KM on $300 worth of electricity?

Lets say 7km / kWh. So 11,500 / 7 = 1642.85kWh.

I'm paying 16c/kWh with Meridian. So 0.16 * 1642.85 = $262.85.

So they must be assuming a lower level of efficiency. Even at 6.5 km / kWh the total is still $282.

The numbers are very real. An EV charged at home is *vastly* cheaper than a car that uses fossil fuels.

Is that including the EA levy and lines charge?

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#2309485 2-Sep-2019 14:21

Scott3:

Kinda odd at first look. But consider:

The first RHD Model 3's arrived in NZ this month.
The previous display model 3 was LHD and unsuitable for test drives.
Tesla operations in NZ have previously only delivered relatively small numbers of model S & X cars.
A substantial (hundreds) number of Model 3's destined for customers have arrived in NZ this month.

As of 7 August, there were only 3 model 3's on the NZTA motor vehicle register, It will be very interesting to see the September update and exactly how many did arrive in August...

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#2309550 2-Sep-2019 15:27

wellygary:

Scott3:

Kinda odd at first look. But consider:

The first RHD Model 3's arrived in NZ this month.
The previous display model 3 was LHD and unsuitable for test drives.
Tesla operations in NZ have previously only delivered relatively small numbers of model S & X cars.
A substantial (hundreds) number of Model 3's destined for customers have arrived in NZ this month.

As of 7 August, there were only 3 model 3's on the NZTA motor vehicle register, It will be very interesting to see the September update and exactly how many did arrive in August...

So far, from the work of one of the Facebook group members, there are 53 known registered Model 3's in August.

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#2310704 4-Sep-2019 16:16

jfanning:

Linuxluver:
shanes:

Can a Leaf really do 11,500KM on $300 worth of electricity?

Lets say 7km / kWh. So 11,500 / 7 = 1642.85kWh.

I'm paying 16c/kWh with Meridian. So 0.16 * 1642.85 = $262.85.

So they must be assuming a lower level of efficiency. Even at 6.5 km / kWh the total is still $282.

The numbers are very real. An EV charged at home is *vastly* cheaper than a car that uses fossil fuels.

Is that including the EA levy and lines charge?

I don't include the EA levy and lines charge because they are fixed amounts for the connection (at my house, anyway) and I'd be paying them even if I didn't have an EV. They aren't relevant as additional costs incurred because I have an electric car.

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#2310707 4-Sep-2019 16:17

I have a per unit levy on my bill.

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#2310708 4-Sep-2019 16:19

wellygary:

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As of 7 August, there were only 3 model 3's on the NZTA motor vehicle register, It will be very interesting to see the September update and exactly how many did arrive in August...

Looks like September may be the big month.....though it will depend on what's on whatever ships that arrive. Mine won't be here until late October.

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#2310711 4-Sep-2019 16:24

Any idea how much 'error' is in your 'late October' estimate? Have you been given a firm bracket of dates by Tesla?

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#2310803 4-Sep-2019 21:34

paulchinnz:
Any idea how much 'error' is in your 'late October' estimate? Have you been given a firm bracket of dates by Tesla?

The day I ordered (20/8) I spoke to Gillian at Tesla NZ. She said they had just moved the delivery window for new orders to mid / late October. This should be reflected on the expected delivery month on the web site.

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#2311254 5-Sep-2019 14:44

Obraik:

wellygary:

Scott3:

Kinda odd at first look. But consider:

The first RHD Model 3's arrived in NZ this month.
The previous display model 3 was LHD and unsuitable for test drives.
Tesla operations in NZ have previously only delivered relatively small numbers of model S & X cars.
A substantial (hundreds) number of Model 3's destined for customers have arrived in NZ this month.

As of 7 August, there were only 3 model 3's on the NZTA motor vehicle register, It will be very interesting to see the September update and exactly how many did arrive in August...

So far, from the work of one of the Facebook group members, there are 53 known registered Model 3's in August.