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#1717099 8-Feb-2017 10:35

LDV are moving into electric vehicles. I asked the local LDV dealer if their G10 model (a 6-7 seat people mover) will be available as an electric vehicle here, as it is in China (and soon, Australia). They sell the petrol version here already.

The answer - LDV's NZ marketing manager called me back an hour later - is they will be bringing the LDV G10 to NZ as an EV in late 2017 or early 2018, but he can't give a specific date or price.....)

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#1717131 8-Feb-2017 11:34

From memory Slope Point in the Catlins is actually S of Bluff ... if you want get to the S most point of the mainland

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#1718329 10-Feb-2017 14:21

I see "Smart" will be selling electric vehicles for the UK, called "Smart ForTwo ED" or "Smart ED"

I assume they are "right-hand-drive", the steering wheel on the right. Even though the pictures I've seen, show the steering wheel on the left, US style.

Regarding this car, anyone heard if anything about NZ / Aus?

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/smart/fortwo/first-drives/2017-smart-fortwo-electric-drive-review

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#1718707 11-Feb-2017 17:41

kingdragonfly: I see "Smart" will be selling electric vehicles for the UK, called "Smart ForTwo ED" or "Smart ED"

I assume they are "right-hand-drive", the steering wheel on the right. Even though the pictures I've seen, show the steering wheel on the left, US style.

Regarding this car, anyone heard if anything about NZ / Aus?

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/smart/fortwo/first-drives/2017-smart-fortwo-electric-drive-review

http://uk.smart.com/uk/en/index/smart-electric-drive.html

The range appears to about 120km "real world". Charging is via 22kw AC. Probably Type 2 / Mennekes connector. These are now appearing in NZ as the government recently released it's "standard" (18 months after chargers with CCS Type 1 (US-style CCS) connectors started rolling out.....but never mind). The new charger in Whakatane (Horizon Networks) has a Type 2 socket on it. I've used it.

22kw is the same as the base level of the Renault Zoe. It takes about 90 minutes to charge from empty.....whereas a Nissan LEAF can fast charge from empty to 80% in about 30-40 minutes....and virtually all the existing the chargers - fast or slow - support LEAFs. But there is a cable for use with 3-phase industrial power, which is fairly common, I'm told....so it's easy to get charged up if you know where.....

But for around town, this would be a really cool car. You'd charge it at home and there will be more Type 2-compatible chargers appearing over the coming year.

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#1718781 11-Feb-2017 22:30

3 phase is not restricted to industrial. My bro in law just wired his house up with three phase, he wanted it for his welder etc, and only cost a few extra $100 to supply to a new connection.
You get the full 400V with three phase, rather than just your nominal 231V.

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#1718836 12-Feb-2017 08:50

1eStar: 3 phase is not restricted to industrial. My bro in law just wired his house up with three phase, he wanted it for his welder etc, and only cost a few extra $100 to supply to a new connection.
You get the full 400V with three phase, rather than just your nominal 231V.

Great! So should be easy for places to offer Type 2 22kw and 43kw AC charging for cars like the Zoe and the e-Smart.

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#1719135 12-Feb-2017 23:12

kingdragonfly: I see "Smart" will be selling electric vehicles for the UK, called "Smart ForTwo ED" or "Smart ED"

I assume they are "right-hand-drive", the steering wheel on the right. Even though the pictures I've seen, show the steering wheel on the left, US style.

Regarding this car, anyone heard if anything about NZ / Aus?

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/smart/fortwo/first-drives/2017-smart-fortwo-electric-drive-review

Mercedes has been selling the Smart ED (Electric Drive) for some years now, but they have just upgraded it to the new shape (lagging the petrol Smart for 2 by a about a year).

It is unlikely they will be available new in NZ. I don't think even the petrol smart car is available here...

There is at least one of the older shape (cira 2014 model year) in NZ. If you want one there are two of them (one black, the other white with green trim) going to auction in japan on Tuesday (I guess a selling price of $14 - $16k driveway). It will take a year or two for the new shape to start showing up on the japan auctions, but probiably will be available ex-UK sooner.

Of course, there serious limitations with this car. Firstly it is a two seater, secondly it has a 17.6kWh battery (epa rated range of 101km), and doesn't have any fast charging, so no good for any out of town stuff. Still could be a good fit in a multi car household. On the plus side, it's rear wheel drive, has actively cooled (liquid) battery pack (like tesla & i3, but unlike leaf), and is tiny (for tiny parking spots).

By the sounds of it the (prev gen) petrol smart "Automatic" was actually a really nasty automated manual gearbox, making the smart ED by far a better drive.

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#1719173 13-Feb-2017 07:46

Regarding a tiny NZ garage:

The odd thing about the Smart ForTwo is it's about as wide as the Leaf, Zeo and i3.

Lengthwise, two of them nose to nose is about a meter longer than a Volt.

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#1719781 14-Feb-2017 07:14

May not be worth the trouble, but I found a number of 2015 Nissan Leaf's for sale in Japan.

The newest was 2015, at $18,600, delivered to Auckland

https://www.tradecarview.com/used_car/nissan/leaf/20297978/

The average on TradeMe was around $26,000

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#1719832 14-Feb-2017 09:10

kingdragonfly: May not be worth the trouble, but I found a number of 2015 Nissan Leaf's for sale in Japan.

The newest was 2015, at $18,600, delivered to Auckland

https://www.tradecarview.com/used_car/nissan/leaf/20297978/

The average on TradeMe was around $26,000

How I read it that price excludes freight.

When converting the price of a ex japan car to a landed in NZ price, you need to add 15% gst, and add around $6000 in freight, agents fees, inspections, customs, compliance, rego, on roads etc.

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#1719992 14-Feb-2017 13:22

Scott3: .... add around $6000 in freight.... agents fees, inspections, customs, compliance..... rego, on roads etc.

Is it your experience? Seems too expensive. 1000+400+350=$1750 as I was told by people who do that for living. Not including "agents fees" - what fees if you DIY

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#1720131 14-Feb-2017 16:58

I think $18,636 takes care of the FOB, but you're right about GST. I missed that one.

You're charged GST on the car, and the shipping

$18,636 x 115% = $21,431

Here's a PDF from customs

http://www.customs.govt.nz/news/resources/factsheets/documents/fact%20sheet%2029.pdf

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#1720387 15-Feb-2017 08:33

RUKI:

Scott3: .... add around $6000 in freight.... agents fees, inspections, customs, compliance..... rego, on roads etc.

Is it your experience? Seems too expensive. 1000+400+350=$1750 as I was told by people who do that for living. Not including "agents fees" - what fees if you DIY

Sorry I was a little high, cost is about $5300 driveaway to buy a zero yen car from an auction from japan.

this is what it costs via carwebs (an agent):

Car cost:

Winning bid amount

Auction house fees + inspection + sales tax :

¥40,000 + 1.5%

Transport from auction / de-reg / Odometer check / MPI inspection:

$835

Shipping & entry permits:

$1,100

Marine transit insurance / port charges:

$350

Carwebs fee:

$850

Customs GST:

15%

Customs clearance / transport / compliance / emissions testing / WoF inspection / cleaning:

$955

+ Rego (around $250)

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#1720983 16-Feb-2017 07:16

I'm not sure if this is the relevant place to put it, but here's the relative size of EV's. Might help people with small garages.

The one in light green is the Renault Zeo. I didn't put in the Mitsubishi I-car / i-MiEV. It's a Kei car, smaller than the Kia (gas)

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#1722549 19-Feb-2017 10:09

Scott3:

Industry sources indicate that NZ is going to move towards a european "type 2" charging system (much better for NZ than type given we have readily available three phase power, and that type 1 cannot support it). The european system works on a "bring your own cable" basis, public chargers have only a type 2 socket, and you plug your own cable into the charger, and the other end into your car (for nissan leaf's this is a type 1 to type 2 cable).

I'm a bit confused with the Zoe's charging options. Is it correct that the Zoe:

- has a Type 2 Mennekes connector

- has no DC fast charge option (unless it has the optional Quick Charge feature?)

- charges at a rate of 3- 43 kW

When on a road trip in NZ, how wide spread are public charging station with high (22-43) amp Type 2 Mennekes plugs?

When I checked http://www.leadingthecharge.org.nz/charging-sites many public sites do not list Type 2 Mennekes at all, and if they do, for example the Z stations.

Does that mean that with a Zoe on a long road trip, fast high amp AC charging with Type 2 Mennekes is hard to find?

Many thanks for sharing your experience!

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