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#2975780 1-Oct-2022 13:08

jonathan18:

IIRC more M3s were registered than MYs in August

Yep. But not by much.

New Registrations in August:

Tesla Model 3: 746
Tesla Model Y: 581

This, of course, reflects what Tesla is producing and shipping more than how many people are actually wanting the cars. There are quite a few people that have been waiting for a long time now for their Model 3s. Should see a lot more Model 3s being registered within the end of the year, I would think.

@jarledb: how are you enjoying your car?

Absolutely love it. Have zero regrets that we bought it. But it is still early days. Love the autosteer for long drives on motorways.

I much prefer it over the Model 3. And I don't find the ride too harsh. Think Tesla made a mistake by delivering review cars with 20" wheels. That seems to be a harsher ride than the 19" that it comes with standard.

Anything you find frustrating about it? And, also, what’s your charging regime? At the risk of bringing this up again [as I raised recently on the M3 thread!] are you frequently charging to 100%?

Frustrating? I mean the driving security systems, Traffic-Aware Cruise Control and Autosteer are not prefect and on the narrow roads with bad markings we have here in New Zealand the car can be a little "nervous" about various things. That is a little annoying, but you grow to learn what the car can handle and what it dosen't. For instance I typically only use Autosteer on well marked and wide roads now.

But from my understanding that is a "new car advanced lane/cruise control" problem more than a Tesla problem. Hopefully it will improve over time.

Another thing that I hope they fix is the slow mobile connection with Premium Connectivity. Not sure if they share bandwidth or if the max bandwidth is very low, but features that really depend on the bandwidth from the mobile connection has been unimpressive. Think I will start using tethering from my phone when in the car and wanting to use streaming services.

Also wish they would include a feature to save/cache Spotify playlists on the memory stick in the car. That is another reason I might not use Premium Connectivity but rather use my phone: On my phone all my main playlists are saved on the phone so playing music dosen't drop out when you are in a dead spot for mobile data.

Charing regime: Rather simple: I use the car and charge up when I think it is needed. So the car is not charged daily. If I am not about to go anywhere far away I will typically limit the charging to 80%, but charging to 100% about once a week. For the longer trips I have typically made sure the car has been charged to 100% before the trip. Not pre-conditioned the car before those trips, but think I will start doing that. If nothing else to make the efficiency numbers look better ;)

I see Tesla recommend you always charge to 100%. From my understanding that is to make sure the battery management system understands how much capacity is actually in the battery.

Had the car for a little over a month now and driven about 950 km. Not yet done any fast charging other than testing the ChargeNet fob the day I got the car and charging up a whopping 5 kWh! :D

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#2975782 1-Oct-2022 13:13

Dingbatt:

Kind of reminds me of a scene from a movie in the Scary Movie franchise, where all the pent up ‘demand’ is released at once 😁.

Would not surprise me if another 1000-1500 Model Ys get on the NZ roads within the end of the year. That "pent up demand" was orders that came in from 10 June this year. And I see a lot of people that ordered in July still haven't gotten the cars they ordered.

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#2975806 1-Oct-2022 13:41

@jonathan18

Have you got the 2022.28.2 update yet? If so has it affected your in-vent instrument display? I was just watching a video review of a couple of similar displays on YouTube and there was a comment on the indicators no longer displaying on one of them after the update.

So I went and had a try on my HUD. The indicators work okay, but now the clock it displays has a weird character where the ‘10s’ digit should be. Not a biggy because that’s not the reason I’ve got the HUD anyway. It’s to show my speed and everything else is just gravy. And I have acknowledged right from the start it is only a Tesla software update away from being rendered useless. Which is why I won’t spend a large sum on something like this.

I might do a factory reset on the spare display I now have (thanks to jonathan18) and see what that does.

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#2975918 1-Oct-2022 14:54

Dingbatt:
@jonathan18

Have you got the 2022.28.2 update yet? If so has it affected your in-vent instrument display? I was just watching a video review of a couple of similar displays on YouTube and there was a comment on the indicators no longer displaying on one of them after the update.

So I went and had a try on my HUD. The indicators work okay, but now the clock it displays has a weird character where the ‘10s’ digit should be. Not a biggy because that’s not the reason I’ve got the HUD anyway. It’s to show my speed and everything else is just gravy. And I have acknowledged right from the start it is only a Tesla software update away from being rendered useless. Which is why I won’t spend a large sum on something like this.

I might do a factory reset on the spare display I now have (thanks to jonathan18) and see what that does.

Yep, I have 2022.28.2, and yep it now means the indicators no longer work on the HUD which is a bugger. Interestingly, it does mean I find I’m less aware when I’ve stuffed up indicating (brain reverting back to assuming indicators work the same as ‘normal’ cars) as I don’t have it signposted directly in font of me. Luckily my son is quick to point out my indicator failings! (Actually, I will admit, six weeks in, I’m still getting tripped up by the indicators and gear changes - the other day I did the classic of managing to go into reverse rather than indicate, thanks to Teslas’ ability to change from D to R if travelling slow enough.)

Weird about your clock display - is that mentioned in any comments on that type of HUD? Agree, though, that the key one is speed - if that goes I’ll be pissed!

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#2975925 1-Oct-2022 15:25

jonathan18:

Weird about your clock display - is that mentioned in any comments on that type of HUD? Agree, though, that the key one is speed - if that goes I’ll be pissed!

There wasn’t any comment concerning my HUD, but I thought since it tapped into the obd port the same as yours the update may have some affect. I assumed data on the obd2 port would be standard data for car systems. Obviously not and Tesla can manipulate it as they see fit. But, as I said, as long as the speedo is correct, I don’t really care about the rest. If the speed gets broken, then beauty is, the installation is completely reversible. Glad it’s not one of the complicated ones that replaces the dash and connects to the autopilot computer.

Once again it makes me wish Tesla offered certified aftermarket accessories.

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#2976762 3-Oct-2022 13:40

Actually drove the car yesterday and today and the HUD clock seems to have resolved itself (shows the correct time and is synched to the car). One quirk it does have now though is when the headlights come on the hi-beam symbol shows on the HUD (regardless of whether the headlights are hi or lo) and when the DRLs are on the lo-beam and sidelight symbols are on. Weird, but not really a problem.

I would be interested to know how the Model Y (and M3 for that matter) GZers are finding their energy consumption. I have just clicked over 5000km and my M3 is showing lifetime consumption of 132Wh/km.

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#2976767 3-Oct-2022 14:02

I’ve also noticed the same high beam symbol (in blue) on my HUD, which is somewhat weird - I had wondered whether I was just mis-remembering it as ever having been green!

Speaking of lights - I’m a bit surprised at the (il)logic as to when the auto beam senses the lights should be on: t can be a relatively bright sunny day and the lights will be on. I recall this could sometimes happen in my last car, but that was always solved by a ‘reset’ by turning auto beams off then back on; with the Tesla they still come back on. Anyone else experience this?

As for efficiency: I’m sitting at about 165 after 1740km. In terms of distance travelled, that’s probably about 50:50 open road:city driving.

I had a weird experience the other day when we went for a 90km-sh ‘Sunday drive’ where energy usage was (relatively speaking) off the charts - 204Wh/km, with an ‘efficiency’ of 68% (a calcualtion made by Tessie, comparing actual energy usage vs the car’s estimation as to what it would use). I wondered if it was strong wind or somewthing, but the return trip was even worse (218Wh/km / 63%).

(As a comparison, economy after the trip from Akld-PN when I picked the car up was 160, and that involved far more spirited driving!)

This is has made me somewhat wary of the 180Wh/km figure I’ve used in ABRP for planning our SI trip at Xmas, especially given we’ll have a much more loaded car for that (and I had thought the 180 was fairly conservative). I’m sure we’ll be fine, but I’d like to have a bit more certainty; a decently long trip (say to Wgtn and back) will give me a bit more real-world data to see if that was an anomoly or whether I need to be more conservative.

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#2976863 3-Oct-2022 16:10

On the open road I tend to average 190 to 200 Wh/km. Around town its closer to 160

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#2977015 3-Oct-2022 22:47

Decal:

On the open road I tend to average 190 to 200 Wh/km. Around town its closer to 160

That is what I am getting as well.

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#2977033 4-Oct-2022 07:27

so assuming 60kWh battery usable (which is not true, as i don't know how much is usable)

300km open road

375km urban

that is about 22% less than WLTP at best, I'd say closer to 25-30% less than WLTP in current climate - probably less in the South Island in winter?

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#2980586 11-Oct-2022 13:06

Just sounding out if there’s any interest from other Model Y owners in the lower North Island keen on getting a spare 19” wheels/tyre?

An MY owner in Porirua is selling a full set of original wheels and tyres, basically unused, for $2k or $600 each - I’m thinking about buying one or two, but if others are keen and we buy the set it would be $100 cheaper per tyre/wheel - only $500, and given one of these new tyres is close to $500 (fitted), it’s not much more to have a spare wheel (or just on-sell the part you don’t want. - I’m thinking I’ll buy two and on-sell a wheel).

I’m in PN, so we would need to arrange picking up/dropping off, but I’m sure that’s easily do-able.

Please DM me if interested.

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#2980587 11-Oct-2022 13:14

It appears that all Model Y performance deliveries for NZ/Aus have been pushed out to Jan - March 23 now. Disappointing.

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#2983600 17-Oct-2022 07:04

how is the initial degradation?

i read on tesla forums the LFP gets 5% deg after 5000kms then supposedly settles down once you don't look at it

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#2983614 17-Oct-2022 08:39

Batman:
how is the initial degradation?

i read on tesla forums the LFP gets 5% deg after 5000kms then supposedly settles down once you don't look at it

There’s one owner on FB that reports a 2.1% drop after 6,000km, but I’ve seen few others in NZ report anything similar. The guy installing a tow bar for me today has done over 10,000km and he’s posted a shot showing 435km range (same as what the Y reports when new), though he doesn’t report his battery %.

After 2,300km this is mine, as reported by Tessie; I imagine I’ll give up looking at this (ostrich-like) if it goes the way of my wife’s Leaf!:

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#2983645 17-Oct-2022 11:15

Just keep in mind that this measurement is not accurate and is based only on what the BMS knows. If the BMS hasn't seen a full range of charge, with the car being able to sleep for a number of hours at different charge levels then the BMS starts to guess and you start to see "phantom degradation". This is more prominent in the NCA packs as they also don't get to sit at 100% very often.

As an example, I went on a road trip a couple months ago in my 2019 Model 3 Long Range Performance (Stealth), which at new, had a range of 500km. The night before, it had a predicted max range of 415km at 100%, but after letting it charge to 100% overnight (took it three hours to complete after hitting 100%), it increased to 430km of range. During the road trip after having ran it low a few times, followed by charging it up again, it arrived home with a predicted 100% range of 475km.

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