wellygary:

 

Govt gives EVs owners another 2 1/2 years of RUC exemption, but signals it might be the last one...

 

Excellent, saves me a roughly $1k per year (based on 15,000 travelled in a year).

Hopefully by 2024 they have figured out how to tax BEV's correctly without making something like a Hybrid cheaper to run.

nzkiwiman:

 

wellygary:

 

Govt gives EVs owners another 2 1/2 years of RUC exemption, but signals it might be the last one...

 

 

Excellent, saves me a roughly $1k per year (based on 15,000 travelled in a year).

 

Hopefully by 2024 they have figured out how to tax BEVs correctly without making something like a Hybrid cheaper to run.

 

I suspect that the government (no matter what party) will within a decade at the latest have to switch from petrol taxes to a RUC-type distance travelled system to fund Waka Kotahi / NZTA. The NZ fleet fleet gaining more and more PHEVs, BEVs & fuel cell vehicles will make a fuel tax based system unsustainable.

Enforcement might be an interesting issue, we may need more active road policing checks to validate registration, WOF/COF & RUC - the latter will require the policeman to look at the dashboard to verify & note the odometer reading, a relatively time-consuming process

But don't worry, this won't make petrol cheaper as the tax comes off, a higher Carbon Charge will undoubtedly take care of that :(

PolicyGuy:

 

I suspect that the government (no matter what party) will within a decade at the latest have to switch from petrol taxes to a RUC-type distance travelled system to fund Waka Kotahi / NZTA. The NZ fleet fleet gaining more and more PHEVs, BEVs & fuel cell vehicles will make a fuel tax based system unsustainable.

 

Enforcement might be an interesting issue, we may need more active road policing checks to validate registration, WOF/COF & RUC - the latter will require the policeman to look at the dashboard to verify & note the odometer reading, a relatively time-consuming process

 

But don't worry, this won't make petrol cheaper as the tax comes off, a higher Carbon Charge will undoubtedly take care of that :(

 

One off implementation cost and then automated RUCs.

HarmLessSolutions:

 

PolicyGuy:

 

I suspect that the government (no matter what party) will within a decade at the latest have to switch from petrol taxes to a RUC-type distance travelled system to fund Waka Kotahi / NZTA. The NZ fleet fleet gaining more and more PHEVs, BEVs & fuel cell vehicles will make a fuel tax based system unsustainable.

 

Enforcement might be an interesting issue, we may need more active road policing checks to validate registration, WOF/COF & RUC - the latter will require the policeman to look at the dashboard to verify & note the odometer reading, a relatively time-consuming process

 

But don't worry, this won't make petrol cheaper as the tax comes off, a higher Carbon Charge will undoubtedly take care of that :(

 

My money is on a GPS based system similar to eRoad. No opportunity to dodge distance recording/charges, able to have differential charging for various vehicle weights and/or fuel types, and removal of RUC charges on non-road petrol usage (power tools, boats, etc.)

 

One off implementation cost and then automated RUCs.

 

Ah GPS RUC tracking .  A  cops wet dream.  Instant speeding fines, knowing every movement your car makes. 

Azzura: New Hummer

A move to a GPS based RUC system would likely need to be driven by the desire to implement congestion charging (variable road fees depending on demand for roads you will be using).

Massive efficiency (time & fuel) gains to be had from congestion charging, but politically hard. There is no hiding that allocating road space to those who are most willing to pay for it (rather than those willing to spend a long time in traffic) will likely price the poor off the roads... (and the whole tracking issue, but I don't feel that is such a big deal. its not like we don't have number plate detection cameras on our roading network at the moment.)

Personally I think we are more likely to see:

• RUC's on all vehicles, replacing road user component of fuel tax. Or
• Same situation as currently but with a lesser RUC rate for EV's and PHEV's, compared to diesel cars.

Should note that currently recreational boaties (and other off road fuel users not eligable for rebates) pay many millions of road and regional fuel taxes. I don't think the situation is fair, but if removed it would require tax's on road users to be increased to get the same tax take.

kingdragonfly:

Azzura: New Hummer

Follow up: Man ogling new Hummer causes pile-up when rear ends another rubber necker.

Its even better,

Man in gas swilling '21 Mustang GT muscle car loses concentration ogling EV pickup  :).....  

old3eyes: Ah GPS RUC tracking. A cops wet dream. Instant speeding fines, knowing every movement your car makes.

But of course you would also want to record time, so you could have differential charges for different times of the day.

And I doubt that NZTA could resist the temptation to use it to enforce speed limits, either instantaneously, or averaged over a distance.

frankv:

 

But of course you would also want to record time, so you could have differential charges for different times of the day.

 

And I doubt that NZTA could resist the temptation to use it to enforce speed limits, either instantaneously, or averaged over a distance.

 

 

 

As long as you are speeding to the next fast charger, you’ll be okay. :-D

If we're moving to congestion charges, it will be interesting to see if Utes pay the same per-km rate as my Mini in an urban environment. 

Some street-scape changes like aggressively-high pedestrian tables are actually downright hostile to small city-sized cars and encourage uptake of high-riding SUVs/Utes that have poor outcomes for other road users in the event of a collision.

Also wondering whether we will see travel through some areas (i.e. the North Shore) which have better transport options than others taxed at a higher rate than others (e.g. North West Auckland, which has sod all). 

Would be a hard sell if all areas of Auckland are charged the same per-km cost from a RUC POV given the widely varying levels of public transport access across the region.

If Auckland Cities rubbish disposal charges are anything to go by, low socio-economic areas will pay congestion charges while up market areas get premium service for free.