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#2749577 25-Jul-2021 22:04

gzt: That sounds very weird. It's an accident. The lease agreement that does not require or provide insurance? Hard to believe. There must be more to it surely.

Leases have a requirement that you use OEM parts for repairs, that's not a Tesla specific thing, it's just the way leases work, at least in the US. You don't have to get those repairs done at an official dealer though.

So if you return your leased car at the end of the lease and it's got non-oem parts you will be liable for the costs to replace those parts with OEM ones.

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#2749587 25-Jul-2021 23:40

That's making more sense. Imo he's in the clear with Tesla provided it's a competent and professional repair. This is no different to I dunno having some weird accident that shears off and wrecks an oil line outlet. You're not going to replace the whole engine block. Any professional is going to re-tap it or helicoil it and something similar was done in this case.

RobDickinson

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#2749650 26-Jul-2021 08:30

gzt: Ford Escape PHEV arrives in NZ:

https://www.ford.co.nz/electric/escape-phev/

https://www.driven.co.nz/reviews/we-drive-the-ford-escape-st-line-x-phev-power-supply/

1.5 litres per 100km in hybrid mode. 8 years 160,000 km battery warranty.

That is going to get monstered by the eclipse and outlander phevs

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#2749657 26-Jul-2021 08:50

RobDickinson:

(quote) gzt: Ford Escape PHEV arrives in NZ:

That is going to get monstered by the eclipse and outlander phevs

Why? Please explain as I am interested in the Escape PHEV.

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RobDickinson

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#2749715 26-Jul-2021 08:57

Ford Escape PHEV -

$61k starting
front wheel drive only
Ac charging only

Eclipse phev -
$50k starting
AWD
DC fast charging w Chademo

Both have very similar power and fuel economy and EV only range.

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#2749721 26-Jul-2021 09:08

gzt: Ford Escape PHEV arrives in NZ:

https://www.ford.co.nz/electric/escape-phev/

https://www.driven.co.nz/reviews/we-drive-the-ford-escape-st-line-x-phev-power-supply/

1.5 litres per 100km in hybrid mode. 8 years 160,000 km battery warranty.

Nearly $70k to get any decent features for what is, essentially, a run-of-the-mill Ford SUV.

RobDickinson

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#2749722 26-Jul-2021 09:09

Model Y SR will come in at a similar cost (post rebate) be fully loaded, faster and cheaper to run etc. (fingers crossed we actually get the SR...)

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#2749853 26-Jul-2021 11:17

RobDickinson:
gzt: Ford Escape PHEV arrives in NZ:

https://www.ford.co.nz/electric/escape-phev/

https://www.driven.co.nz/reviews/we-drive-the-ford-escape-st-line-x-phev-power-supply/

1.5 litres per 100km in hybrid mode. 8 years 160,000 km battery warranty.

That is going to get monstered by the eclipse and outlander phevs

Going by what I’ve read on the Outlander battery on other GZ threads and elsewhere, I for one will not be looking at Mitsi PHEVs, whether or not they offer better value for money (which, to be frank, is one of the main attractions of Mitsubishi vehicles).

RobDickinson

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#2749857 26-Jul-2021 11:20

Personally yes I would avoid, but then ford had to recall all their phev's last year because of potential battery fires, not sure I would trust them any further (and the mach-e is an utter mess)

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#2749884 26-Jul-2021 12:10

RobDickinson:
Personally yes I would avoid, but then ford had to recall all their phev's last year because of potential battery fires, not sure I would trust them any further (and the mach-e is an utter mess)

The Ford mach-e is not an "utter mess." Much of it matches Tesla specs.

The exception is thermal management where Ford went a lot of on-the-shelf boxes, which were then plumb together. Tesla seems to be the industry best.

Not that we're going to be seeing any Mach-E is New Zealand anytime soon, as nothing about a RHD version has been announced.

Obraik

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#2749891 26-Jul-2021 12:29

RobDickinson:

(and the mach-e is an utter mess)

What's your issue with the Mach-E?

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#2749892 26-Jul-2021 12:32

Its an utter mess, check out what the actual owners are putting up with. Multiple people stranded multiple battery replacements many, many issues.

https://www.macheforum.com/site/forums/issues-warranty-recalls-tsb-ssm.32/

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#2749962 26-Jul-2021 14:58

kingdragonfly:

The exception is thermal management where Ford went a lot of on-the-shelf boxes, which were then plumb together. Tesla seems to be the industry best.

Not that we're going to be seeing any Mach-E is New Zealand anytime soon, as nothing about a RHD version has been announced.

Sandy’s point about off the shelf parts might be relevant in the US where an OEM part is only an overnight courier away. But in NZ, if the Mach-E ever gets here, the ability to use a stock coolant system item to get the vehicle back on the road may be vital. The trade off is more connectors which create a failure point.

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Dingbatt

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#2749963 26-Jul-2021 15:00

RobDickinson:

Its an utter mess, check out what the actual owners are putting up with. Multiple people stranded multiple battery replacements many, many issues.

https://www.macheforum.com/site/forums/issues-warranty-recalls-tsb-ssm.32/

And, of course, Tesla had no teething problems with their early models.

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RobDickinson

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#2749967 26-Jul-2021 15:04

Difference is its 2021 not 2012.

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