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#2781458 21-Sep-2021 09:10

USA cant electrify with Ford and Gm leading, they are both incompetent.

The UAW are against EVs and wont cooperate with building them either.

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#2781794 21-Sep-2021 17:36

RobDickinson:
USA cant electrify with Ford and Gm leading, they are both incompetent.

The UAW are against EVs and wont cooperate with building them either.

Those a both a bit broad.

Ed Munro did a deep dig into the Mustang Mach-E, and it was generally favorable, certainly much better than I expected.

The Union, UAW, isn't against EV's; they're against robots and simpler assembly (less components).

The younger leaders seem to like EV's, while the older leaders distrust any changes.

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#2781810 21-Sep-2021 18:27

kingdragonfly: The Union, UAW, isn't against EV's; they're against robots and simpler assembly (less components). The younger leaders seem to like EV's, while the older leaders distrust any changes.

Maybe more complex. American built EVs will probably contain a larger proportion of imported components and components built with non-unionised labor.

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#2781815 21-Sep-2021 18:41

RobDickinson: The UAW are against EVs and wont cooperate with building them either.

That's not the case. UAW and Biden have come up with a new deal - an extra US$4500 in consumer tax incentive per vehicle if it's built in a plant with union labor. Good for GM and Ford as well + USA Fiat/Chrysler

Tesla, Toyota USA, and others are gnashing and wailing. Those plants are not unionised vehicles coming out of there will not get the extra subsidy. Those vehicles will qualify for the remainder of a US$12k max proposed by the same plan tho.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/14/tesla-toyota-and-honda-criticize-4500-tax-credit-for-union-made-evs.html

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#2781988 22-Sep-2021 07:41

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2022-lucid-air-dream-edition-r-exclusive-first-drive-review/

Sounds like Lucid is onto a winner

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#2782026 22-Sep-2021 09:30

Yeah but can it tow a horse trailor from auckland to Wellington

/s

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#2782032 22-Sep-2021 09:45

afe66: Yeah but can it tow a horse trailor from auckland to Wellington

/s

Don't be silly, nobody does that. They hire a private jet to fly it to Wanaka.

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#2782034 22-Sep-2021 09:48

afe66: Yeah but can it tow a horse trailor from auckland to Wellington

/s

When it runs out of battery, hitch up the horses and use regen braking to charge up again.

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#2782041 22-Sep-2021 10:20

CrazyM:

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2022-lucid-air-dream-edition-r-exclusive-first-drive-review/

Sounds like Lucid is onto a winner

But at $170K USD (~270K NZD inc GST ) and weighing in at 2.2 tonnes, I suspect the number that end up in this part of the world will be countable on one hand ( maybe two)

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#2782047 22-Sep-2021 10:49

To be fair a sedan with 500+ miles range in NZ is a bit wasteful.

520 miles is almost Picton to Invercargill ~12 hours driving.

for a Ute that might be towing a boat somewhere, sure.

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#2782063 22-Sep-2021 11:23

RobDickinson:

To be fair a sedan with 500+ miles range in NZ is a bit wasteful.

520 miles is almost Picton to Invercargill ~12 hours driving.

for a Ute that might be towing a boat somewhere, sure.

500km is Wellington to Whangarei or Picton to Queenstown..

You are carrying a whole lot of spare batteries round town for that extra long summer roadie....

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#2782074 22-Sep-2021 11:47

wellygary:

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500km is Wellington to Whangarei or Picton to Queenstown.

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Hope no one is relying on your calculations for deciding where next to charge the batteries - not even if flying line of sight 🙂.

(500 miles, perhaps?)

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#2782092 22-Sep-2021 11:51

yeah that be 500 miles...

No one really drives that far without a stop or two.

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#2782095 22-Sep-2021 11:52

DS248:
wellygary:

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500km is Wellington to Whangarei or Picton to Queenstown.

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Hope no one is relying on your calculations for deciding where next to charge the batteries - not even if flying line of sight 🙂.

(500 miles, perhaps?)

What if you walked that 500 miles? I would...

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#2782148 22-Sep-2021 14:05

You'd need to walk 500 more @Ge0rge

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