New car availability. Many models (especially low range 4x4's) sold out or waitlist.

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#2709393 19-May-2021 07:26

frankv:

Back to the 1960s, when near-new secondhand cars sold for more than new cars, because of the length of the waiting list (and the requirement for overseas funds).

Not only back in the 60s. I was at a Toyota dealer having my car serviced and was wandering around their used car yard. There was a 2019 RAV4 Hybrid with 20000km and the window ticket had $55K on it which is the price of a new (2021) one. That model was sold at $49K in 2019 and when I pointed that out to the salesperson they said “Yes, but you’ll have to wait 6 months for a ew one”.

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#2709475 19-May-2021 09:11

Dingbatt:

frankv:

Back to the 1960s, when near-new secondhand cars sold for more than new cars, because of the length of the waiting list (and the requirement for overseas funds).

Not only back in the 60s. I was at a Toyota dealer having my car serviced and was wandering around their used car yard. There was a 2019 RAV4 Hybrid with 20000km and the window ticket had $55K on it which is the price of a new (2021) one. That model was sold at $49K in 2019 and when I pointed that out to the salesperson they said “Yes, but you’ll have to wait 6 months for a ew one”.

Also in the 1970s

When I came to NZ from Australia in 1975, I was picked up from Wellington Airport Arrivals - an unheated pigeon-infested cargo shed in those days - by my new boss, who whisked me away in a nearly-new Toyota Crown sedan. I had a good deal of cognitive dissonance when he told me with pleasure that the company had been given permission to import two of these cars, brand new, as essential support to a nationally-important programme, and that they would be the best investment they had ever made, as they would be able to sell them at great profit when the project was complete in two years.
The idea that you could sell a two-year-old car at a great profit was completely inexplicable to this Sydney boy.

Ah, the Good Old Days ... not!

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#2710316 20-May-2021 19:12

Interestingly Kia's web site is showing the Sportage as sold out, with no further orders being taken until the new generation arrives next year.

This will be a blow for anyone shopping in that segment as this is one of the more popular options. On the other hand, the new generation is likely to be a seriously good product.

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#2710394 20-May-2021 22:22

Skip the Toyota and go for a new Lexus. Less wait time and better quality.

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#2710418 21-May-2021 00:09

alasta:

Interestingly Kia's web site is showing the Sportage as sold out, with no further orders being taken until the new generation arrives next year.

This will be a blow for anyone shopping in that segment as this is one of the more popular options. On the other hand, the new generation is likely to be a seriously good product.

This is quite significant. We aren't even half way though the year yet, and the new sportage hasn't even been revealed yet. (suggesting it is unlikley to arrive untill some way into 2022.)

As you say it has been consistently a big seller over the last few years. I understand it was sold 2913 units in 2020, making it the 5th overall, behind the Range, hilux the rav4 at 5347 units and Triton.

Given the Rav4 (especially hybrid) has supply constraints and decent wait times, this is going to put pressure on the rest of this popular class. Typically the CX5 is next in line for sales in this class.

703:

Skip the Toyota and go for a new Lexus. Less wait time and better quality.

Lexus isn't immune. The LX (flashed up landcruiser 200) is now marked as out of stock...

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#2711041 21-May-2021 21:13

We just paid a deposit for a new CX-5 yesterday. We’re lucky, they have the colour we want already in the country but we were back at the dealer today and talking to the sales manager who said that supply is ok for the moment but it’s going to start slipping from next month due to the global chip shortage, worldwide demand, and delays with shipping.

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#2711042 21-May-2021 21:16

corksta:
We just paid a deposit for a new CX-5 yesterday. We’re lucky, they have the colour we want already in the country but we were back at the dealer today and talking to the sales manager who said that supply is ok for the moment but it’s going to start slipping from next month due to the global chip shortage, worldwide demand, and delays with shipping.

Congrats! Which CX5 did you get and how much did you get off?

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#2711043 21-May-2021 21:23

turtleattacks:
corksta:

We just paid a deposit for a new CX-5 yesterday. We’re lucky, they have the colour we want already in the country but we were back at the dealer today and talking to the sales manager who said that supply is ok for the moment but it’s going to start slipping from next month due to the global chip shortage, worldwide demand, and delays with shipping.

Congrats! Which CX5 did you get and how much did you get off?

Thanks! We got the GSX AWD model, couldn’t really justify getting the Limited as it’s mostly just luxury upgrades. We got about $4000 off the retail price. We went to two dealers, discounts literally only differed by tens of dollars.

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#2711092 21-May-2021 21:38

We got about $4000-$5000 off our CX9 too. I think the Takami RRP including ORC is about $71-72k, we got it for $66k out the door.

It’s a nice car! Nice engine and beautiful interior!

Did you get the CX5 with the new infotainment computer?

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#2711099 21-May-2021 22:05

Yes we did, I made sure we were getting the 2021 model which has privacy glass and wireless Apple CarPlay. We’d have loved the CX-9 Takami, they had one in the showroom, stunning!

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#2711143 22-May-2021 08:24

turtleattacks: We got about $4000-$5000 off our CX9 too. I think the Takami RRP including ORC is about $71-72k, we got it for $66k out the door.

It’s a nice car! Nice engine and beautiful interior!

Did you get the CX5 with the new infotainment computer?

Was that negotiation for cash sale, or on finance. I too have been looking at the cx9. It would be on finance and didn't feel there would much negotiation available.

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#2711202 22-May-2021 08:42

Shindig:
turtleattacks: We got about $4000-$5000 off our CX9 too. I think the Takami RRP including ORC is about $71-72k, we got it for $66k out the door.

It’s a nice car! Nice engine and beautiful interior!

Did you get the CX5 with the new infotainment computer?

Was that negotiation for cash sale, or on finance. I too have been looking at the cx9. It would be on finance and didn't feel there would much negotiation available.

If you do the finance through Mazda’s current offers then you have to pay RRP there’s no room for any discount.

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#2711203 22-May-2021 08:53

corksta:
Yes we did, I made sure we were getting the 2021 model which has privacy glass and wireless Apple CarPlay. We’d have loved the CX-9 Takami, they had one in the showroom, stunning!

So here’s the interesting thing. Your infotainment is actually the previous generation but they added wireless CarPlay which I would LOVE but doesn’t exist on the newer ones you see on that CX9 and Mazda3.

Strange that they implemented the wireless capability on the existing screen and not that new one.

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