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#2805211 1-Nov-2021 11:51

@Lias the logic (lack of) around management of rail in Aotearoa is the same as NZ Post. Instead of evolving and adapting to change when the market changes they put up the price as the only treatment for falling revenues.

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#2805212 1-Nov-2021 11:53

Lias:

Flippikat: While TG is a huge improvement on the current state, it just emphasizes the lack of decent and direct connections between Tawa-Porirua-Kapiti and Petone-Lower Hutt-Upper Hutt - especially as far as public transport goes.

It's absolutely appalling that the reliable public transport between those two "arms" is taking a train all the way down to Wellington Station, then up the other line.

We need to get away from the "all roads lead to Wellington" focus we've had for years, and transition to inter-connected nodes.

As someone who in theory (mostly WFH) works in the Hutt and lives in Kapiti, couldn't agree more. These days I mostly only go into the office if we're having drinks or something, meaning I'm not driving so have to train into town then back out and it's just painful. The total and utter lack of late night public transport between Wellington and Kapiti is also worth mentioning.. Last train is 1am, after that it's 6am Saturday or 7am Sunday. The entirety of the Hutt and everywhere else up to Plimmerton at least gets a late night bus service till 3am, Kapiti has nothing. It's just a no brainer to me that the trains should be operating through the night on Friday and Saturday nights so that people can get home safely. They do it on New Years etc, but it should be year round.

And then there is the Wairarapa Line - with the Friday night 1030 Wellington to Masterton all we get. Nothing on Saturday after 6.55pm

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#2805288 1-Nov-2021 12:43

Even before the 90's passengers were not paying the cost of rail. AFAIK it would been cheaper to fly the Wgtn - Akl passengers and cancel the train. Not so convenient trying to parachute anyone into the intermediate stops. Rail has prioritised freight that can be profitable.

Rail is also limited by gradient so it's not as simple as just nipping over Haywards.

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#2805327 1-Nov-2021 13:39

They are about to do the final sealing work on the Porirua/Tawa end to connect the motorway, be good to see all those bumps gone

https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/wellington/126844858/transmission-gully-set-to-be-connected-to-state-highway-1-but-still-no-opening-date-confirmed

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#2805392 1-Nov-2021 14:30

DjShadow:

They are about to do the final sealing work on the Porirua/Tawa end to connect the motorway, be good to see all those bumps gone

https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/wellington/126844858/transmission-gully-set-to-be-connected-to-state-highway-1-but-still-no-opening-date-confirmed

I can tell you now this is going to turn into an unmitigated disaster ,

8-10am on a Saturday morning is a very busy time for motorway traffic.... lots of people out and about taking kids to sport, running errands, going to Bunnings/M10 etc, .. This will blow up badly .. expect Tawa to gridlock, along with huge tailbacks for those remaining on the Mway

From NZTA Twitter

"Plan ahead for SIGNIFICANT DELAYS on Sat 6 & Sat 13 Nov, 8am-10am,while TG paving crews finish laying 1000 tonnes of asphalt to connect the new motorway to SH1."

https://twitter.com/WakaKotahiWgtn/status/1454906771127013376?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

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#2805394 1-Nov-2021 14:32

cshwone:

And then there is the Wairarapa Line - with the Friday night 1030 Wellington to Masterton all we get. Nothing on Saturday after 6.55pm

And so out of date that they still physically clip cardboard tickets the same as they did in 1950...

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#2805397 1-Nov-2021 14:34

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dfnt:

Even if it doesn't save much time, I'll be glad to never have to drive through Paremata, Plimmerton, Pukerua Bay and Paekakariki ever again.

By far the most tedious stretch of 50-100-50-80-70-80-100km/h road..

Ultimately all traffic into Wellington ends queueing up in Tawa. Are we going to see more cars coming into Wellington due to faster bypass? If so, what's the impact on the already gridlocked Wellington city traffic?

I hate to say it but it's likely more people will come into Wellington, making things a lot worst for city traffic.

Wellington needs to embrace something like Park and Ride as it is used in the UK: huge carparks on the edge of cities where the parking fee includes a looping bus service from the carpark to the CBD. You could do it with light rail or trams too.

Most of what gets labelled 'Park and Ride' should really be labelled "The Station Carpark"!

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#2805414 1-Nov-2021 14:56

Hutt City has a lot of park and ride facilities however they are a target for criminals

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#2805659 1-Nov-2021 18:23

martyyn: Kapiti grapevine says it will open 15/16 December.

It will be a huge relief for those of us on the Coast to be able to bypass the bottlenecks of Porirua, Plimmerton, Pukerua Bay and Paekok.

I think it will make a significant difference in either direction.

But living in Otaki Beach nothing changes until the PP2O section opens. Every holiday or long weekend will still be carnage for us.

I've heard Friday Dec 17, but yeah a week & a bit before Christmas would be pretty nifty.

I suspect we may get confirmation after the next two Saturdays of work sealing where it joins current SH1 at the south end of TG (Sat 6 Nov, Sat 13 Nov) - so IF that goes to plan without any problems, an announcement during the working week of 15-19 Nov?

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#2805741 1-Nov-2021 21:16

Geektastic:
cshwone:

And then there is the Wairarapa Line - with the Friday night 1030 Wellington to Masterton all we get. Nothing on Saturday after 6.55pm

And so out of date that they still physically clip cardboard tickets the same as they did in 1950...

It wasn't that long ago we still had those hideous 1950 communist looking trains during peak hour.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/7013161/Wellington-trains-may-go-on-Trade-Me

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#2805756 1-Nov-2021 22:35

Ha ha... As kids we used to ride those English Electric units from Khandallah to Wellington very frequently, later daily to get in to VUW. I'm talking about 50+ years ago. They were ancient then, always giving trouble especially the air operated doors.

Can't wait to drive the new TG route when it finally opens.

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#2805760 1-Nov-2021 22:49

colinuu:

Ha ha... As kids we used to ride those English Electric units from Khandallah to Wellington very frequently, later daily to get in to VUW. I'm talking about 50+ years ago. They were ancient then, always giving trouble especially the air operated doors.

Yep, me too. Went to Plimmerton Primary in the 1950-60s and every Tuesday afternoon the Standard 5 and 6 classes had to catch those trains to go to ‘Manual Training’ in Porirua - woodwork for the boys and cooking for the girls. Great times.

Sometimes I just sit and think. Other times I just sit.

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#2805789 1-Nov-2021 23:22

DjShadow:

Are we likely going to see RCG building towers to sort out the "dead patches" or each carrier expand their own network?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/wellington/126546710/transmission-gully-emergency-services-test-run-finds-several-kilometres-of-black-spots

I can see RCG are currently planning a Paekakariki Hill site that will likely add new coverage to parts of the motorway.

IMO it'll be difficult to fully cover Transmisson Gully with Cell Phone coverage as, well, it's a deep gully which is not overly conductive to RF.

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#2805799 2-Nov-2021 06:00

That RCG site isn't ideal topographically - it's one ridge over from TG, with equally high or higher ridges between it and TG. But I guess they want it close to Paekakariki Hill road for access to mains power.

The only alternative I can think of would be to have several sites alongside the motorway tapping into the ITS power supply.

Tough terrain to cover. Will be interesting if I can stream Netflix the whole way on TG

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#2805822 2-Nov-2021 07:56

MikeB4: Hutt City has a lot of park and ride facilities however they are a target for criminals

That's the Hutt for you I'm afraid.

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