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#2850788 14-Jan-2022 14:07

Obraik:

@Dingbatt you're 100% correct, that is infact a Model S. I don't have a sub to The Herald so couldn't see that pic.

But yeah, Model S & X didn't start officially selling here until 2017 with the refreshed frontend. Any with the old nose cone are imports.

It points more to the accuracy of the Herald reporting and editing than anything else.

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#2850789 14-Jan-2022 14:07

Theres a grey signature edition S I see in Ferrymead , no side cameras so mobileye ap1 at best.

Assume it was a batch of p85's imported into Oz in RHD?

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#2850790 14-Jan-2022 14:09

RobDickinson:

Assume it was a batch of p85's imported into Oz in RHD?

I think The Herald just found a random stock image of Tesla's and figured it ticked the box. Good to see they're going to the extra effort with subscribers money!

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#2850792 14-Jan-2022 14:10

RobDickinson:

MarkH67:

Herald article today: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/okay-beamer-striking-image-shows-tesla-takeover-at-auckland-port/XC6QUF6ZKCJGSXAFN72YOROYXM/

It seems the sales of the Model 3 are pretty good, I know that I've seen quite a number of them on the road around the Waikato.

Tesla outsold BMW, Audi and Mercedes here last year and nearly outsold ford (and close to VW), in passenger cars.

And thats with 1 model and 1 showroom.

Yeah, but Ford sold 3 times as many Rangers as model 3s, Similar to the US where Ford sold twice as many F series Utes compared to Domestic US Tesla sales

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#2850793 14-Jan-2022 14:10

Just for the numbers... 2021 passenger vehicles.

Audi 1749

Ford 3531

Honda 3978

Jaguar 357

Lexus 1005

Mercedes 2187

Tesla 3270

VW 4278

Thats with only 6 months of the subsidy also, tesla on for 1k+ in Q1

Wonder if we'll get more MG and Hyundai etc?

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#2850797 14-Jan-2022 14:16

Kia 10,142

Mitsubishi 14,564

Toyota 17,855

Tesla and others are certainly making inroads, but they're still minnows in comparison to the big players.

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#2850805 14-Jan-2022 14:30

RobDickinson:

Lexus, Audi = minows?

yes they didnt sell more than the biggest sellers at the moment. or outsell the ford ranger. so what.

In the NZ vehicle market, yes. Toyota sold more vehicles in Dec 21 alone than Lexus and Audi managed combined for the entire year of 2021.

As for your second comment - you've missed the entire argument I've made around the EV opportunity for a manufacturer in NZ.

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#2850824 14-Jan-2022 14:32

Lets see where we are in a few years haha

Model Y should easily more than double teslas sales

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#2850825 14-Jan-2022 14:33

KiwiME:]The Type 2 EVs (the NZ standard) typically have an "Auto Unlock" setting in the car which allows automatically unlocking the connector when AC charging has finished.

Have yet to see one like this. Care to offer any examples?

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#2850836 14-Jan-2022 14:53

RobDickinson:

Lets see where we are in a few years haha

Model Y should easily more than double teslas sales

Or possibly it will eat its own young. Cannibalise sales from the Model 3 where people want a hatchback and a higher ride height. The Y will also launch into a market that includes the Ioniq5, EV6, Polestar 2, BMW iX, i4 and iX3*. None of those competitors were available in NZ when the M3 launched, or when there was a pulse of orders at the start of the rebates.

* And possibly within 12 months of those vehicles, the Enyaq, iD3 and iD4, and if we’re lucky the Mach-E.

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#2850838 14-Jan-2022 15:02

It hasnt anywhere else.

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#2850839 14-Jan-2022 15:15

RunningMan:

KiwiME:]The Type 2 EVs (the NZ standard) typically have an "Auto Unlock" setting in the car which allows automatically unlocking the connector when AC charging has finished.

Have yet to see one like this. Care to offer any examples?

I believe the Audi's will auto-unlock when they've finished charging.

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#2850889 14-Jan-2022 15:43

RobDickinson:

It hasnt anywhere else.

Can’t argue with the Church of Elon.

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#2850895 14-Jan-2022 15:50

Dingbatt:

RobDickinson:

It hasnt anywhere else.

Can’t argue with the Church of Elon.

Or like.. evidence.

https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesmanian-blog/tesla-model-3-became-the-best-selling-ev-in-december-in-2021-in-germany

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-3-best-selling-ev-europe-2021/

https://teslanorth.com/2022/01/12/teslas-model-3-was-the-best-selling-ev-in-canada-for-2021/

etc

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#2850905 14-Jan-2022 16:08

Dingbatt:

Or possibly it will eat its own young. Cannibalise sales from the Model 3 where people want a hatchback and a higher ride height. The Y will also launch into a market that includes the Ioniq5, EV6, Polestar 2, BMW iX, i4 and iX3*. None of those competitors were available in NZ when the M3 launched, or when there was a pulse of orders at the start of the rebates.

* And possibly within 12 months of those vehicles, the Enyaq, iD3 and iD4, and if we’re lucky the Mach-E.

if that's the case good for the used car market.

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