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#1497082 22-Feb-2016 16:10

There are electric car charging stations at North West (End of the North-West Motor Way) and a few other places.

https://vector.co.nz/evcharging

And they are free to use. (free power from Vector)

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#1497458 22-Feb-2016 22:29

alasta:

One thing to consider is that not everyone has the facilities to charge an electric car overnight. My off-street car park at home is around the corner and up a reasonably long pathway from my flat, so there is no way I could run a power cable to it.

Electric cars are at the early adopter stage, they won't be right for everybody.

When they become more mainstream, people will start demanding infrastructure. i.e. they will limit there search for properties to those with a minimum of one offstreet carpark, which has capability to charge an EV at 32amps. (Similar to how if i was to rent a property now, I would restrict the search to only those with UFB able to be easily connected.

When this happens the marketplace will quickly evolve.

If I had a EV I would want a dedicated charger (EVSE) installed where I normally park, and keep a charging cable compadiable with with a domestic socket / campground socket in the car all the time.

My circuit board happens to be in my garage, but it is quite normal to run permanent electrical cables significant distances outside. You can put it in a trench (min 600mm deep, with mechanical protection & warning tape etc), or put it in conduit, and mount it on a fence or wall etc. It does add to the cost, and if you get over 100m or so you may need to go up a wire size to limit voltage drop, but I doubt it will be a sticking point for somebody considering a car that starts at USD70,000.

Getting charging put in place can be more difficult in multi unit dwellings, with body corps etc to deal with. Again this should become a non issue when EV's become mainstream, and many unit holders start demanding the wiring be added.

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#1497460 22-Feb-2016 22:34

I spotted a Model S today:

Black P90DL with the grey 21" wheels and personalised plate "Electric". It was parked on shortland street (Auckland), near the Lumley centre.

Fastest accelerating (0-100km/h) Four door production car ever made...

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#1497672 23-Feb-2016 11:03

Scott3:

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Getting charging put in place can be more difficult in multi unit dwellings, with body corps etc to deal with. Again this should become a non issue when EV's become mainstream, and many unit holders start demanding the wiring be added.

I suggested qute a while ago to install EV chargers in the underground garages - e.g. those huge buildings used for business and for appartments.

If you are a business - you can provide an incentive (paid or free, depends) to your employee to charge while their car is sitting in that garage the whole day...

If you have operational fleet - those charge pooints can still be used and shared by employees.

But companies who are currently building those multi storey complexes seems to be short-sighted..

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#1506341 5-Mar-2016 06:13

The range of electric cars will improve enough for the typical person to charge their car less often than they go to the supermarket. Supermarkets do fuel discounts now so it isn't hard to see big retailers letting their customers recharge their cars while they shop.

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#1506352 5-Mar-2016 07:42

bfginger:

The range of electric cars will improve enough for the typical person to charge their car less often than they go to the supermarket.

Until they invent something better than Li ion batteries, no. Well yes you can, if you tow a caravan packed with batteries.

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#1507139 6-Mar-2016 21:47

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bfginger:

The range of electric cars will improve enough for the typical person to charge their car less often than they go to the supermarket.

Until they invent something better than Li ion batteries, no. Well yes you can, if you tow a caravan packed with batteries.

Would you charge your smartphone each week at the supermarket if it's battery lasted a week? The bulk of New Zealanders have access to off street parking, It's not that hard to have a charging point installed, and not that hard to plug in each night... Takes 5 seconds, Definitely easier than fueling up your petrol car every week, especially if there is no petrol station on your commuting route.

I think one of the best things about electric cars is the ability to wake up each morning with a full charge.

That said, the average annual travel for light vehicles (per vehicle) in NZ is currently around 11500km (and showing a decreasing trend). If evenly distributed across the year this is 221km per week. A little out reach of current Leaf's, but well within reach of current Tesla's, and the next generation of 60kWh battery cars (Chevy Bolt, Tesla model E, possibly next generation Nissan leaf). With electric vehicles range is more about being able to do intercity trips, than it is about needing infrequent charging.

On a Tesla Note, According to the ministry of transport we have 31 Tesla's in NZ now (although that included unfeasible data points such as 3 model X's that were registered before Tesla delivered any). I seen to see one or two each week in Auckland.

We now have 1057 plug in vehicles in NZ.

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#1507258 7-Mar-2016 09:15

11500km per year is 221 per week or 31 km/d (7 days) or 44 km/d which is well within the 100km range of the batteries of a nissan leaf.

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#1507511 7-Mar-2016 15:04

The math as in two post above reminds me the "average temperature in the hospital" - i.e. where one has fever and the other one is shivering. On average their temperature looks good.

What if you commute to work 15km round trip but also going places outside Auckland now and then where yuo would not have time to recharge and distance is out of reach of current battery range..

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#1507527 7-Mar-2016 15:25

Scott3:

I spotted a Model S today:

You can track the NZ electric fleet regisrations here ( updated monthly)

http://www.transport.govt.nz/research/newzealandvehiclefleetstatistics/

As at end of Feb, there were 1001 registered EVs, Around 400 were Leafs (leaves? :) ) (330 used imports) 350 were Outlander PHEVs, 58 BMW Is and 24 Telsas

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#1507570 7-Mar-2016 16:12

wellygary:

You can track the NZ electric fleet regisrations here ( updated monthly)

http://www.transport.govt.nz/research/newzealandvehiclefleetstatistics/

As at end of Feb, there were 1001 registered EVs, Around 400 were Leafs (leaves? :) ) (330 used imports) 350 were Outlander PHEVs, 58 BMW Is and 24 Telsas

That's interesting, thanks.

But what's NZ New vs Used Imports? I know what it means in a traditional sense, but where can you buy new Teslas here?

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#1507573 7-Mar-2016 16:14

Big fan of the car, and this happened to me on Friday:

Wearing the shirt and I spot one in Newmarket. Choice. pic.twitter.com/F9LU68A2em

— Nate Dunn (@nate) March 3, 2016

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#1507608 7-Mar-2016 16:55

dclegg:

wellygary:

You can track the NZ electric fleet regisrations here ( updated monthly)

http://www.transport.govt.nz/research/newzealandvehiclefleetstatistics/

As at end of Feb, there were 1001 registered EVs, Around 400 were Leafs (leaves? :) ) (330 used imports) 350 were Outlander PHEVs, 58 BMW Is and 24 Telsas

That's interesting, thanks.

But what's NZ New vs Used Imports? I know what it means in a traditional sense, but where can you buy new Teslas here?

"used" means it has been previously registered in another country,

-So in this sense it means one bought "second hand" in the US and then shipped here,

-Rather than one bought straight from a dealer {without registration] and then shipped to NZ....

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#1507616 7-Mar-2016 16:59

wellygary:

"used" means it has been previously registered in another country,

-So in this sense it means one bought "second hand" in the US and then shipped here,

-Rather than one bought straight from a dealer {without registration] and then shipped to NZ....

Thanks, that makes sense.

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#1507622 7-Mar-2016 17:07

Ahhh tesla (or whoever has the nz rights) demonstrated one at my kids primary school on Friday.

So my 7 year old comes home educating me on the advantages of the electric car!!!!

Had I known, I'd have gone along too. Missed out.

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