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#2982205 13-Oct-2022 10:59

Dingbatt:

And 610km from a 111kWh battery doesn’t seem that great.

Yes, there comes a point where the extra weight really starts to outweigh (heh) the extra electrical capacity. At least it's better than that Hummer EV abomination.

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#2982207 13-Oct-2022 11:03

i guess the wish of me getting a polestar 3 under the rebate cap is up in smoke.

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#2982208 13-Oct-2022 11:05

just clicked on a pic

every EV now looks the same!

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#2982219 13-Oct-2022 11:29

That's why we bought an i3. I think it's one of the best looking cars out there.

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#2982231 13-Oct-2022 11:55

kingdragonfly: Hummer stuck in park. Happy ending:

joke about needing CTRL-ALT-DEL
manually open frunk
disconnect 12 V battery

As more and more items on cars become electrified its becoming clearer that manufacturers need to make it very obvious how to open important places when there is no power (flat battery) or some software malfunction,

james May had a similar elongated process to open the Frunk on a Model S when the 12V went flat over lockdown,

- The Manufacturers know its a possible problem (they build in the emergency pull cords)- but they then hide them away....

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#2982245 13-Oct-2022 12:36

I found this review of a Swiss/Italian micro EV car interesting viewing - the makers argue that the dominant approach to EV design (well, car design generally) is to produce cars with every bell and whistle (the electrification of the frunk mentioned above is what reminded me of this), which results in large, heavy cars that therefore need a lot of energy to lug themselves around and need to focus heavily on aerodynamics to make up for the weight. This car - made by the same company as the Micro kids' scooter - is kinda the opposite.

This would be a great option for many situations; my biggest concern with such a design, though, would be safety - I'd not be keen on having a head-on collision in one of these at city speeds, let alone on the open road!

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#2982249 13-Oct-2022 12:52

martyyn: That's why we bought an i3. I think it's one of the best looking cars out there.

😰 each to their own!

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#2982255 13-Oct-2022 13:36

jonathan18:

I found this review of a Swiss/Italian micro EV car interesting viewing - the makers argue that the dominant approach to EV design (well, car design generally) is to produce cars with every bell and whistle (the electrification of the frunk mentioned above is what reminded me of this), which results in large, heavy cars that therefore need a lot of energy to lug themselves around and need to focus heavily on aerodynamics to make up for the weight. This car - made by the same company as the Micro kids' scooter - is kinda the opposite.

This would be a great option for many situations; my biggest concern with such a design, though, would be safety - I'd not be keen on having a head-on collision in one of these at city speeds, let alone on the open road!

Never likely to be seen in any numbers in NZ.

In the same tradition as the Renault Twizzy they are classed as "Quadricycles" in Europe,

They cannot be registered without an exemption in NZ as they fail the frontal impact standards, (in 2016 Renault were in "discussions" with NZTA to allow the Twizzy to be driven on NZ roads, but it looks like that went nowhere)

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#2982315 13-Oct-2022 14:49

martyyn: That's why we bought an i3. I think it's one of the best looking cars out there.

Did you manage to get one with the same panel colour all around? I've only seen one or two like that. They look ok to me and sometimes good.

The majority I've seen have three different panel colours on the same car. Usually blue, black and silver. To me it looks like something a panel shop is working on. I'm sure I'd get used to it.

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#2982318 13-Oct-2022 14:56

i3 is almost always dual colour. Bonnet, boot, sills and a wide stripe through the B-C pillar area is black. Remainder is solid other colour. The sills will often have a thin blue horizontal stripe - that blue that is somehow associated with EVs...

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#2982321 13-Oct-2022 15:13

The in-laws have one in grey and black (bonnet/boot) it manages to blend in pretty well, - same as this one out of the UK

But yes, i've certainly seen a few with interesting colour combinations...

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#2982329 13-Oct-2022 15:41

gzt:
martyyn: That's why we bought an i3. I think it's one of the best looking cars out there.

Did you manage to get one with the same panel colour all around?

Yep, it's all black except for a silver stripe across the top of the windows and the blue sill.

I'm thinking of tinting the windows and going for one of the new black plates.

BMW choose the blue to associate with their ev's.

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#2982333 13-Oct-2022 15:49

Not just BMW that associate that blue with EVs. Nissan uses it on the LEAFs too.

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#2982335 13-Oct-2022 15:56

As do Toyota.

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#2982338 13-Oct-2022 16:02

RunningMan:

Not just BMW that associate that blue with EVs. Nissan uses it on the LEAFs too.

Plus Toyota has associated blue with its hybrid system for yonks. Mercedes seemed to have initially linked blue with its EVs when it launched the EQ range. And I've just remembered the VW blue association from ages back - Bluemotion. And I wouldn't be surprised if there are others... The use by VW and Toyota show that it's not solely an EV thing but to connote eco-friendliness in the car space.

Edit: this article (that is behind a paywall!) on this topic is from 2009; Bluemotion dates back to 2006, so it's certainly a relatively old association.

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