Petrol prices getting close to last year's record. What about your city or town?

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#2221571 20-Apr-2019 20:40

Got bored.

Couldn't picture how to match it with minimum and calculated/expected amounts (especially given AA can stack and varied docket amounts) So it may not be totally accurate

Quite the complex beast. Some back-scratch due to their supply chain, when it doesn't always work both ways

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#2222321 22-Apr-2019 18:06

I've paid $0 / Litre for the past 2 years and 10 months. Anywhere in NZ.

Electric car. (16c / kWh = about 7km).

It's the escape hatch from variable fuel prices for those who really want to be free of it. Several EVs now have range of 450km or more.

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#2222363 22-Apr-2019 19:55

Brent crude futures surged more than 3 percent to over $74 per barrel on Monday.

(Related to US sanctions of Iranian oil)

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#2222394 22-Apr-2019 20:50

Heralds picked up on that

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12224352

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#2222448 22-Apr-2019 22:36

Linuxluver: I've paid $0 / Litre for the past 2 years and 10 months. Anywhere in NZ.

Electric car. (16c / kWh = about 7km).

It's the escape hatch from variable fuel prices for those who really want to be free of it. Several EVs now have range of 450km or more.

Except that if you need something other than a hatchback as a vehicle. A suitable EV either doesn't exist, Or costs a very large amount of money to buy.

Saying that you can just buy an EV, Is like saying that everyone who is paying high rents should just buy their own house.

I'm sure that everyone on this forum, who has enough money. And who has a use case that fits an EV. Would have already bought an EV. I would love to buy an EV, but my use case doesn't suit an EV, and even if it did. I dont have enough money to buy an EV.

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#2222536 23-Apr-2019 09:12

Linuxluver: I've paid $0 / Litre for the past 2 years and 10 months. Anywhere in NZ. Electric car. (16c / kWh = about 7km).

At least provide something comparable in your statement, like equivalent $0.45 / Litre, for the sake of the thread.

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#2222754 23-Apr-2019 17:00

BP listened

2.339

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#2222756 23-Apr-2019 17:11

Up in Whangerei yesterday, 209.9 at BP before discount so filled up.

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#2222790 23-Apr-2019 18:16

ok we had a price rise in Rotorua went up 1 cent to 181.9, it is going to be hard when it goes back to normal.

Common sense is not as common as you think.

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#2222863 23-Apr-2019 20:50

When oil/exchange rates become favourable they don't drop their fuel prices it's because they've 'hedged their supplies' and the 'fuel in ground was bought at a higher price'.

But when the oil/exchange rates go up one station INSTANTLY raise prices, followed within hours by the rest.

Completely against their own arguments as to why they don't discount.. despite the fuel in the ground being bought at the cheaper rates. What the heck!

@Oblivian Z raised theirs too - 2.339 by 5pm. Attack of the clones in Christchurch like usual. *angry fuel consumer*

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#2222874 23-Apr-2019 21:14

tehgerbil:

When oil/exchange rates become favourable they don't drop their fuel prices it's because they've 'hedged their supplies' and the 'fuel in ground was bought at a higher price'.

But when the oil/exchange rates go up one station INSTANTLY raise prices, followed within hours by the rest.

Completely against their own arguments as to why they don't discount.. despite the fuel in the ground being bought at the cheaper rates. What the heck!

@Oblivian Z raised theirs too - 2.339 by 5pm. Attack of the clones in Christchurch like usual. *angry fuel consumer*

Yep! I wondered how long 230.9 would last in Christchurch, I went past Mobil, Caltex, BP, Pak n Save fuel, and Z earlier today, & all were on 230.9!

Once they use US sanctions, Libyan crisis, recovering Chinese economy, kiwi dollar dropping a cent, they will probably cite the US driving season as the reason.

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#2223148 24-Apr-2019 12:23

Straight after Easter, 3c increase in Dunedin

And what really annoyed me, a South Island special for all AA Smartfuel card holders - 10 cents off at BP.

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#2223260 24-Apr-2019 16:07

Riccarton Road Mobil had 91 back to 230.9 mid morning Wednesday, everyone else 234...

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#2223291 24-Apr-2019 16:32

Aredwood:
tdgeek:

Sometimes I wish that essentials are Govt controlled and owned and non profit. Capitalism is great if it earns, it innovates, but not if it uses

Except that the government cant even make proper decisions around what should and should not be regulated. And they almost always stuff up the things that they do regulate.

EG we still have regulated copper landlines. Which only serve to leach money that could be better spent on expanding the UFB network or cellphone coverage.

Low user regulations for electricity pricing. Cheaper power for holiday homes, while lots of low income families are forced to pay more for their power.

Resource Management act/ council planning rules. Councils prioritize what they regard as “good urban design” over providing affordable housing. In reality that means houses with large front yards and tiny back yards. No privacy, nowhere for little kids to play outside without worrying about them being able to run onto the road.

The fuel taxes are bad enough, due to them hurting low income people more than high income earners. If the government tried to implement other fuel price regulations. I hate to think how badly they would stuff things up.

The landline thing is government ensuring everyone has access to telecom services. If left to the market, many people wouldn't.
Governments regulate things that need regulating. The people who moan the loudest tend to be the cheaters who resulted in regulation being required to protect others.

Market forces defined power company pricing plans......mostly. We should see power supply as akin to roads....not profit centres.

Fuel taxes are fine. Anyone who doesn't want to pay it needn't use fuel. I don't. Oil companies move petrol prices by a lot more in a year than any tax levy changes.

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The only people I trust less than government are private business. They lie, cheat and steal. That's why we have laws, courts and regulations.

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#2223295 24-Apr-2019 16:42

Aredwood:
Linuxluver: I've paid $0 / Litre for the past 2 years and 10 months. Anywhere in NZ.

Electric car. (16c / kWh = about 7km).

It's the escape hatch from variable fuel prices for those who really want to be free of it. Several EVs now have range of 450km or more.

Except that if you need something other than a hatchback as a vehicle. A suitable EV either doesn't exist, Or costs a very large amount of money to buy.

Saying that you can just buy an EV, Is like saying that everyone who is paying high rents should just buy their own house.

I'm sure that everyone on this forum, who has enough money. And who has a use case that fits an EV. Would have already bought an EV. I would love to buy an EV, but my use case doesn't suit an EV, and even if it did. I dont have enough money to buy an EV.

The point was, for most people the daily driving quota is a less than 100km and a hatchback is fine.....and for them, there is no need to buy petrol. An EV that can do at least 80km (still 2.5 times the daily average) can be had these days for as little as $8K......

Your use case isn't a force of nature. It's about choices you make. They come with costs.....yep. But does your huge whatever need to be used for all your driving?

This won't work for you, I guess.....but it will work just fine for most people....right now. Here's one for $7550.

Also interesting is the Hyundai Kona. They call it a "crossover SUV". I looked long and hard at my LEAF and it's configured the same way - but with more space inside. So not really a hatchback...It's a "crossover SUV". Marketing, eh... :-)

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