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  #3341780 12-Feb-2025 09:09
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kotuku4:

 

kotuku4:

 

Or perhaps da truk can be driven in EU and UK if registered in Albania!

 

 

 

 

Haha and Auckland if you stick a dealer plate on it. 

 


Funny you should say that: 
https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/360576442/its-here-controversial-tesla-cybertruck-hits-streets-auckland

 





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  #3341878 12-Feb-2025 11:37
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Smart EV range is coming to NZ...

 

smart

 

But their naming convention of #1 and #3 is so stupid. At least there's no #2, at least they figured that's a sh#tty name.

 

 


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  #3341886 12-Feb-2025 11:54
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  #3342342 13-Feb-2025 10:18
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I was talking to my local BYD salesman. When asked, he said the BYD Sealion 7 was due for unveiling mid next week (19 Feb), with demonstrators available for test drive from that date.

 

He had some details, but not pricing*.

 

2 Models, Premium and Performance, which seem to pretty much follow the same specs as the Premium and Performance Seal models. A 82.5kWh battery in both (so not the 92kWh available in some markets). Both models are heavy (2225 and 2340kg respectively) and they are not just a fully electrified version of the SL6. They are longer, wider and lower than the SL6. Range doesn’t seem that impressive and will probably equate to 480 and 450km, which I guess is a function of how heavy the vehicle is.
I’m hoping they will come with the newer BYD infotainment that is in the Shark, which adds Navigation to the driver’s display and HUD. It has clearer ADAS indications and better shortcuts on the main display.

 

 

 

*Australia has announced pricing. Set slightly higher than their Seal pricing, which is a bit disappointing.





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  #3342683 13-Feb-2025 22:23
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Saw some cyber trucks in the flesh recently - man, they are butt ugly. 

 

 

 

Lately I've seen a few stories about other EVs.

 

Convert your 60 year old massey ferguson to electric.

 

https://youtu.be/7iEUp5Z1aNw

 

 

 

Electric mini diggers are a thing.

 

https://electrek.co/2025/02/03/i-bought-a-container-full-of-chinese-electric-excavators-heres-what-showed-up/

 

 





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  #3343394 16-Feb-2025 13:52
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The 23 Most Dangerous Cars On The Road: I See Cars
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Two Teslas, the Model Y and Model S, make the most dangerous cars list despite Tesla’s advanced driver-assist technology
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Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all car brands
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  #3343398 16-Feb-2025 14:03
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kingdragonfly: The 23 Most Dangerous Cars On The Road: I See Cars
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Two Teslas, the Model Y and Model S, make the most dangerous cars list despite Tesla’s advanced driver-assist technology
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Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all car brands
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American stats. I wonder how many of the accidents are people using Self drive and then not paying attention like they are meant to.

 

The article does say:

 

"A vehicle’s size, weight, and height certainly play a part in its ability to protect passengers in a crash,” said Brauer. “But the biggest contributor to occupant safety is avoiding a crash, and the biggest factor in crash avoidance is driver behavior. A focused, alert driver, traveling at a legal or prudent speed, without being under the influence of drugs or alcohol, is the most likely to arrive safely regardless of the vehicle they’re driving.”

 

I have seen people, proudly trying to defeat the driver alertness detection system (ie stopping it detecting that hands are on the wheel) and filming 'adult' content while the car is in motion...





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  #3343399 16-Feb-2025 14:07
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They're correct. You need to know ahead of time there's a front emergency door release, to be able to use it. Since there's a lot of videos of Tesla new owners attempting to fill the petrol, I'd expect quite a few people riding a Tesla to be clueless of its existence.

The rear emergency door release appears to be designed to make it almost impossible for children to find.

Tesla’s latest fatal fire is a reminder of why cars need old-school door handles: Fast Company

Car manufacturers have ditched mechanical controls for cheap screens—to the detriment of drivers.

The incident is only the most recent fire involving Tesla vehicles, and it’s a tragic reminder that we can’t depend on touch controls for safety-critical automotive functions.
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As is the case with all Tesla cars, opening the Tesla Model Y’s doors relies on electronic controls. If these fail, you need to use manual alternatives that can be hard to find.

In the Model Y, the front doors have a small release mechanism next to the window buttons. Sandwiched between the door and the door handle, it looks to be part of the car’s plastic body interior. You need to know that it’s there and how to operate it.

On the back doors this release mechanism is even harder to spot.
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  #3343400 16-Feb-2025 14:08
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From that link:

 

“Most of these vehicles received excellent safety ratings, performing well in crash tests at the IIHS and NHTSA, so it’s not a vehicle design issue,” said Brauer. “The models on this list likely reflect a combination of driver behavior [sic] and driving conditions, leading to increased crashes and fatalities.”

 

Which is quite interesting. Would require some in depth data and analysis to fully understand why, but potentially this is drivers unwarranted reliance on systems like automated lane keeping / self drive etc. when they should be augmenting the driving, not replacing it.


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  #3343402 16-Feb-2025 14:32
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RunningMan:

 

From that link:

 

“Most of these vehicles received excellent safety ratings, performing well in crash tests at the IIHS and NHTSA, so it’s not a vehicle design issue,” said Brauer. “The models on this list likely reflect a combination of driver behavior [sic] and driving conditions, leading to increased crashes and fatalities.”

 

Which is quite interesting. Would require some in depth data and analysis to fully understand why, but potentially this is drivers unwarranted reliance on systems like automated lane keeping / self drive etc. when they should be augmenting the driving, not replacing it.

 

The adoption of autonomous vehicles also presents significant and increasing challenges as the level of autonomy increases. For example if the vehicle has low autonomy the point at which driver intervention is required is relatively low but as the level of autonomy increases that point will occur in more complex situations and potentially with more urgency. For example a highway speed incident that the car judges as being unable to cope with may well happen with immediate action required by a driver that was otherwise distracted and under the assumption that the vehicle would magically deal with any incident presented to it. That sounds like a recipe for a disastrous outcome.

 

Full level 5 autonomy when attained will have its biggest challenge from other vehicles it encounters that are under the control of comparatively unpredictable and unreliable humans. It is the transition period of increasing autonomy and mixed levels of various vehicle control inputs that pose the greatest risks IMO.





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  #3343403 16-Feb-2025 15:05
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kingdragonfly: The 23 Most Dangerous Cars On The Road: I See Cars
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Two Teslas, the Model Y and Model S, make the most dangerous cars list despite Tesla’s advanced driver-assist technology
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Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all car brands
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It's an interesting list.

For the tesla's, I suspect it is a combination of:

 

  • Very high performance in some trims attracting the kinds of drivers who enjoy a higher risk driving style. I suspect the ability to do 0-100 in 3.1sec (model 3 performance) is somewhat detrimental to safety outcomes.
  • Environmental credentials attracting those who may not have previously owned heavy, powerfull cars. Even the base tesla's are very powerfull. Quite a change going from a Honda Jazz or Prius to a 200kW+ Tesla.
  • Having been the viral car of the few years prior to the sample period, for the young and cashed up, a more risky demographic than say Camry buyers.

It is possible things like having climate controls on a touchscreen, or driver over reliance on driver-assist tech is a factor, but I suspect above are more the reason.

Another thing that could be a factor, is safety compliancy, driven by they hyping of various tesla models excellent crash test results. Never going to happen, but it would be an interesting experiment for a country to run, to mandate the removal of all drivers airbags, and replacement with a large metal spike. I suspect fatalities would trend down.

 

 


 
 
 

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  #3343415 16-Feb-2025 16:37
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They mention the electronic switches for the doors in a Tesla and how hard it is to find the manual door release yet every time I’ve driven my parents Tesla with friends they always use the manual door release as it’s in the same place that most other cars have their door releases. 🤪

 

 





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  #3343417 16-Feb-2025 17:02
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Meanwhile, this cartoon has been doing the rounds on social media:

 





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  #3343421 16-Feb-2025 17:13
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CYaBro:

 

They mention the electronic switches for the doors in a Tesla and how hard it is to find the manual door release yet every time I’ve driven my parents Tesla with friends they always use the manual door release as it’s in the same place that most other cars have their door releases. 🤪

 

 

 

 

Never had an issue with the grandchildren - Never had to tell any of them (8 of them from 12 down to 7 yo) where the door opener is.

 

They just see the button and press it.

 

Maybe a generational issue.

 

PS Using the manual release can break the windows when you shut and they havent lowered a few mm's - best you tell your friends to use the buttons or it might cost you a window replacement!





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