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#3343670 17-Feb-2025 10:46

I know nothing about Teslas and I'm not their target audience, so I'm probably in a good position to test the door handle thing.

One of my friends recently ordered a taxi and a Tesla turned up. The driver had to open the door for me to get in as it wasn't obvious how to do it. On disembarking I could see a button on the armrest which I was able to use successfully to open the door, but I did not notice any manual override so would not have known what to do in the event of an electrical system failure.

My general reflection was that tech people make things far more complicated than they need to be.

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#3343703 17-Feb-2025 11:49

My wife's had an i3 for a few years now and we both absolutely love it.

But I've been driving my 1990 BMW the last month and it's just been a joy. It starts with a key turn, I have a button to turn on the aircon, buttons to adjust the stereo volume, a stalk to indicate (steady) and a handle to both get in and out of the car.

Manual, straight six, tickled exhaust, leather Recaro seats, lovely.

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#3343712 17-Feb-2025 12:16

Scott3:

For the tesla's, I suspect it is a combination of:

Very high performance in some trims attracting the kinds of drivers who enjoy a higher risk driving style. I suspect the ability to do 0-100 in 3.1sec (model 3 performance) is somewhat detrimental to safety outcomes.
Environmental credentials attracting those who may not have previously owned heavy, powerfull cars. Even the base tesla's are very powerfull. Quite a change going from a Honda Jazz or Prius to a 200kW+ Tesla.
Having been the viral car of the few years prior to the sample period, for the young and cashed up, a more risky demographic than say Camry buyers.

I'm pretty sure for Tesla there's a 4th bullet point to add ...

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#3343722 17-Feb-2025 13:11

dafman:

I'm pretty sure for Tesla there's a 4th bullet point to add ...

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#3343731 17-Feb-2025 13:41

martyyn:

I have a button to turn on the aircon, buttons to adjust the stereo volume, a stalk to indicate (steady) and a handle to both get in and out of the car.

Good old ergonomics. Who would have thought !

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#3343795 17-Feb-2025 18:48

Electric fire truck at Christchurch airport https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/542162/nz-s-first-electric-fire-truck-rolls-out-at-christchurch-airport

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#3343796 17-Feb-2025 18:53

Obraik:

Misusing Autopilot and getting yourself in trouble when you text and drive?

FSD.

Which I think stands for Freakin’ Seriously Defective.

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#3343799 17-Feb-2025 19:11

martyyn:

But I've been driving my 1990 BMW the last month and it's just been a joy. It starts with a key turn, I have a button to turn on the aircon, buttons to adjust the stereo volume, a stalk to indicate (steady) and a handle to both get in and out of the car.

Other than I have a button to push to start it sounds just like my Leaf.

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#3343925 17-Feb-2025 22:08

I expect Musk will require the US buy Cybertrucks for embassies and military attachés, bypassing all those pesky international laws.

UK Bans Cybertruck - 5 Fatal Design Flaws Tesla Can't Fix

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#3344138 18-Feb-2025 12:47

BYD Sealion 7 unveiling at dealerships tomorrow. In the flesh, they are a magnificent looking vehicle, interior looks and feels very refined, certainly more grown up than the Atto / Dolphin and could make an interesting upgrade / replacement from an Atto3. Pricing released tomorrow too I believe.

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#3344479 19-Feb-2025 12:44

Pricing for Sealion 7 is $68K and $80K (plus on road costs). So very similar to the Seal.

Doesn't seem to be a paint premium either, although the colours are all pretty naff.

Looks better than the Sealion 6 (imo).

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#3344492 19-Feb-2025 13:19

Dingbatt:

Pricing for Sealion 7 is $68K and $80K (plus on road costs). So very similar to the Seal.

Doesn't seem to be a paint premium either, although the colours are all pretty naff.

...

Colours seem to be extra in Aus. Price is sharper there of course (AUD 55k - approx 61.3k NZD).

https://www.drive.com.au/reviews/2025-byd-sealion-7-review-australian-first-drive/

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#3344493 19-Feb-2025 13:24

New activity in the V2G landscape https://www.interest.co.nz/technology/131972/electric-vehicle-batteries-bring-energy-flexibility-opportunities-including

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#3344511 19-Feb-2025 14:29

HarmLessSolutions:

New activity in the V2G landscape https://www.interest.co.nz/technology/131972/electric-vehicle-batteries-bring-energy-flexibility-opportunities-including

I am currently of the opinion that "V2G will help balance the grid" is on the same shelf as "Green hyrodgen is great to smooth the grid"

It only works if you have mandated net metering, but even then, the efficiencies scale so it is becomes very attractive for commercial grade (GWH+) battery investors to enter to market and totally eat residential installs for breakfast...

In OZ, the amount of large scale batteries going into the grid is huge, mostly funded by private equity and investment vehicles and they will likely be doing it at finance rates significantly lower than those available to home owners...

https://modoenergy.com/research/australia-nem-big-battery-energy-storage-pipline-report-2025

I can see this happening in NZ in the near future, likely co located with the industrial scale solar that is currently exploding around the country

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#3344512 19-Feb-2025 14:31

DS248:

Colours seem to be extra in Aus. Price is sharper there of course (AUD 55k - approx 61.3k NZD).

https://www.drive.com.au/reviews/2025-byd-sealion-7-review-australian-first-drive/

Bearing in mind that Aussie GST is 10% and the various States have their own additional taxes that can add a couple of thousand to the MSRP, the price is a little closer.

I admit I did pop into the local BYD dealer and look at the Sealion 7 they had there (white premium). It was due out on a test drive so I only had a chance to have a sit in it and a play with the infotainment, etc.

The seats are electric with good lumbar support and I like the manual air vents.

On the infotainment, wireless Android Auto (and I assume Apple CarPlay) was a breeze and I was able to confirm that Navigation is displayed on both the driver’s display and HUD as well as the centre display. And the Nav displayed can be either the OEM system or Android Auto. The HUD seems to be bigger, clearer and with more info than the one in the Seal.

That short sit has peaked my interest enough to take the SL7 for a test drive at some stage.

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