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#3017858 6-Jan-2023 15:59

Model 3 has just had a price drop! $73k before the rebate now and no more Long Range option - the Performance is the only other config option.

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#3017871 6-Jan-2023 16:35

Obraik: Model 3 has just had a price drop! $73k before the rebate now and no more Long Range option - the Performance is the only other config option.

Decent drop also for the Y. Too much stock now vs not enough just 12 months ago.

It's nice to see something dropping in price these days, haha.

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#3017872 6-Jan-2023 16:44

The previous price for the Y incl. ORC and order fee was 77,975. It is now 77,963

The previous price for the Y incl. ORC and order fee was 78,243. It is now 77,963

You and I have very different definitions of "decent drop".

Not sure about the price of the Model 3. Someone else might be able to chime in on that one.

Edit: Updated my post a little after actually reading my order document properly.

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#3017875 6-Jan-2023 16:50

jarledb:

Not sure about the price of the Model 3. Someone else might be able to chime in on that one.

Model 3 RWD has dropped $4k. The Model Y performance has dropped $3k, but as you pointed out, the RWD hasn't really dropped. I think it was artificially kept below $80k previously so there wouldn't have been as much room for a drop.

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#3017876 6-Jan-2023 16:53

My bad on the Y price.

Well, don't be surprised if prices keep going down.

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#3017928 6-Jan-2023 16:59

Well, my bad too.

I didn't read my order document properly. My drive away price incl. everything (stock white Model Y RWD) was 78,243. So they can claim a $300 drop in price for the Model Y. Increased fees however means the actual drop was $280.

Still not a huge drop, but better than I thought.

The Model 3 drop was decent though, and puts it more in line with what would be a logical price difference between the 3 and the Y.

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#3018114 7-Jan-2023 09:54

We are headed to Tesla down here in Christchurch tomorrow for a test drive and are wondering how people charge at home?

Do you use the normal 3 pin wall plug charger or did you go out and have a bigger unit installed? If so, why did you do that and what is your daily use case?

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#3018130 7-Jan-2023 10:41

MilesPNZ:

We are headed to Tesla down here in Christchurch tomorrow for a test drive and are wondering how people charge at home?

Do you use the normal 3 pin wall plug charger or did you go out and have a bigger unit installed? If so, why did you do that and what is your daily use case?

Since I got my M3 last March I have been using the (then) supplied Tesla UMC (granny charger). It is adequate for my general usage as I am overnight charging a couple of times a week. I am averaging about 800km per month, so the car rarely goes below 50%.

I haven’t switched to an EV electricity tariff because we have high daytime usage and that outweighs the savings from lower car charging tariffs for the amount I use my car. Hence I’m currently not limited by only charging during certain hours, which would benefit a (higher power) wall mounted charge point installation.

Not withstanding the above, I intend to get a charge point installed this year, probably an Evnex unit, but need to get our maxed out distribution board upgraded first. I want to be able to leave the UMC in the car rather than keep pulling it out all the time.

So unless you do a lot of kms and need a fast overnight charge all the time, you can probably get away with a Tesla UMC initially. I know you have to buy them as an accessory as they are no longer included but you will need one on the road anyway. And it will allow you time to consider the best place to put a wallbox should you choose to get one. My opinion of where to best put ours has changed since getting the car, so I’m glad I left the cart and horse in the conventional configuration.

Edit: Depending if you have any experience with Teslas, could I suggest you watch Andy Slye’s YouTube video about operating a Model 3/Y. I think he put out an updated version at Xmas time. I found his how-to very handy before test driving so I could concentrate on the car and not be perplexed by the tech.

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#3018153 7-Jan-2023 12:16

Not as good as the US price drops are in the area of US$7000

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#3018156 7-Jan-2023 12:22

I've been using the standard 3-pin plug at 8a with the UMC for around two years now without much issue, however, same as @dingbatt, mine came free with the car. Now that you have to pay for any charging option, I'd recommend going with the Wall Connector option instead. It's more durable than the UMC for long term use.

I am not an electrician so this should be followed up by someone who is, but if you have an outlet near where the car will be charging that is on its own unshared circuit you could have the socket removed and the circuit feeding that socket attached to the Wall Connector which could then be configured as being supplied by a 16a supply.

If you don't already have a UMC, there's no real benefit to having one in the car "just in case" - the number of opportunities you'll have to use it away from home is fairly minimal. A far better option is to get a Type 2-Type 2 cable instead for charging away from home.

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#3018174 7-Jan-2023 13:33

MilesPNZ:

We are headed to Tesla down here in Christchurch tomorrow for a test drive and are wondering how people charge at home?

Do you use the normal 3 pin wall plug charger or did you go out and have a bigger unit installed? If so, why did you do that and what is your daily use case?

I got the Tesla charger installed but had the garage pre wired for an EV when we built the house 3 years ago. Also got 3 phase power put in so can charge at 11kW per hour. You can charge at about 7.5kWh with single phase 32amp with the Tesla wall charger.

So in our case we travel from Wairarapa to Wellington and back 2 or 3 times a week(about 180km with a bit of running around) and charge back to 100% in under 3 hours, which is handy as we have 3 hours free every day on the Contact good nights plan. Had the car for almost 18 months and have never paid a cent to charge it.

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#3018175 7-Jan-2023 13:37

Tesla interest rate is around 8% for their car loans - anyone know of anywhere cheaper?

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#3018179 7-Jan-2023 13:49

Without at least a UMC, you are at the mercy of the public charging network when away from home. Our use case, with a family bach in the Coromandel, means I use the UMC with a 15A socket we had installed. I have used the type 2 cable I bought exactly once in 10 months and that was experimental rather than necessity. Other times I use the UMC away from home is visiting the family farm in the South Waikato which is miles from any public charger.

A UMC is $600. A wall connector is $800 plus installation. A bit like a spare wheel really. You don’t need it……..until you do.

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#3018185 7-Jan-2023 14:36

jjnz1: Tesla interest rate is around 8% for their car loans - anyone know of anywhere cheaper?

A number of banks (ANZ, Westpac, ASB AFAIK) have the ability to borrow at low rates for ‘enviro’-type purchases such as buying an EV or having solar panels installed. IRRC the terms are something like an interest rate of 1% fixed for two years, up to $80k. Obviously best if you already bank/have a loan with one of banks doing this deal, but certainly beats a car loan or borrowing at standard mortgage rates.

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#3018187 7-Jan-2023 14:55

I’m yet to see the value for installing a charger at home, given my typical daily usage isn’t great; when we do put on the ks it’s when on holiday, where a fast home charger is not particularly useful!

The standard UMC puts on15km an hour at 10A; over my new ‘night rate’ period of 2100-0700 that’s 150km of range. That’s probably my typical weekly usage in one night. Agree with the advice earlier to investigate the cost of converting a power point to 16A, as that provides much faster charging speeds than 10A with far lower installation costs (and nothing extra charging-related to buy over the UMC).

While I too got the UMC free with the car, I think I’d still buy one over a wall charger - both for home charging (at both 10A and 16A, as I currently do) but also for taking when on holiday. I’m on the ferry on the way home after a 16 day trip around the SI in a MY - I’m so pleased I arrange to charge at any suitable place we were staying at (using the UMC) as it significantly reduced our need to fast charge. We could charge some days from 5pm to 10am, filling the battery around 60%. (I wasn’t worried about the cost, but rather the warnings of how busy chargers would be this summer.)

I also appreciated having a T2 cable with me, as on a few occasions we plugged in and got a few extra % at a Warehouse (though today’s in Blenheim, weirdly, had tethered cables).

As an aside, while we were checking in on the ferry an M3 driver opened their boot, reminding us how essential it was for us to wait for the MY before buying - I did initially struggle to fit in all our stuff when packing to leave, but luckily my son reminded me about the under-boot and froot!

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