Just wondering what peoples thoughts are on the latest rules for the America's cup?
I think they (oracle) will keep changing the rules so nobody will be able to afford to race.
I love watching the racing, but think it is time to give up for now.
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KiwiNZ: Not $1 of tax payer funds should go into this.
My views (except when I am looking out their windows) are not those of my employer.
Lazy is such an ugly word, I prefer to call it selective participation
itxtme: Here we go again! The economics of funding the Americas cup has been well and truly proven. Tax payer money is an emotive subject. The fact is they (the government) makes more money than they fund.
With that being said, I think Larry is taking the piss, which is ironic given the lengths he went to sue Alinghi after what he deemed was grossly unfair Challenger rules
mattwnz:itxtme: Here we go again! The economics of funding the Americas cup has been well and truly proven. Tax payer money is an emotive subject. The fact is they (the government) makes more money than they fund.
With that being said, I think Larry is taking the piss, which is ironic given the lengths he went to sue Alinghi after what he deemed was grossly unfair Challenger rules
I don't know if it has been proven. If it has been, where? People can massage figures and stats to suit a point of view, as economic benefits are very difficult to measure, as there are so many things to consider. I think they were adding in benefits such as different countries boats being built in NZ. Which may have happened even if NZ didn't have out own team, as we have some of the better designers and boat building companies in the world But if NZ didn't have a team, does this mean that NZ wouldn't get those jobs for building other countries boats?
Economically, we may not make a loss, but is it a good return, especially as NZ is still borrowing billions of dollars from overseas.
I would like to think our government departments are not so corrupt that they can put out a document analyising the cost vs benefit, and they do, but for some reason its just them "massaging figures". Might need to get out the tin foil.
itxtme:
Bizarre, without going to every purchaser of a super yacht from NZ we would not be able to substantiate your claims. If you truly believe the Americas cup has no bearing on the brand that is NZ nautical engineering you are deluded. Maybe you could put forward your solid argument for how this industry pushes ahead when NZ is preforming well in Americas cup? I would like to think our government departments are not so corrupt that they can put out a document analyising the cost vs benefit, and they do, but for some reason its just them "massaging figures". Might need to get out the tin foil.
And you went and said it again "as NZ is still borrowing billions of dollars". I dont meant to sound patronising but if Jimmy has 3 beans and he plants those 3 beans beans and waits, a year later on that tree grows 10 beans. Should Jimmy have planted those 3 beans?
Sideface: The defenders have been outrageously bending the rules for a very long time.
eg in 1885–1887 The NYYC Rule - challenger yachts must sail over seas to the venue on their own hull.
sdav:Sideface: The defenders have been outrageously bending the rules for a very long time.
eg in 1885–1887 The NYYC Rule - challenger yachts must sail over seas to the venue on their own hull.
As opposed to flying?
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