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#154605 2-Nov-2014 07:52
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Was looking at an 8 seater Estima but let's say i could do with 7 seats, any knowledge/experience on reliability, "do not buy"s and "things to look out for" on these cars would be helpful, since there are no local models.

Toyota Wish (better looking)
Toyota Ipsum (ulgier)

Honda Stream (uglish)
Honda Oddyssey (very long thing)

Mitsubishi Grandis (better looking)

ADD: I chose these cars as they are cheaper and lighter than the Estima. (circa 10-15k)

Also, any way to legally add 2 seats to an X-Trail (prev model)




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  #1166747 2-Nov-2014 08:01
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Ford Territory have a 7 seat version as well. The very back seats are really only good for kids though.

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  #1166748 2-Nov-2014 08:02
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Toyota and Honda are the definition of reliability. Mitsubishi used to have some issues especially oil burning at higher KM's but that may now not be an issue.

As for extra seats in the Xtrail, access once installed would be a pain and if you have the sliding rear floor you will lose that. I suggest you talk to your local Nissan dealer and NZTA.

 
 
 
 


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  #1166749 2-Nov-2014 08:10
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Most SUVs have an option for 7 seats now. There will be others but the ones I know of are:

Mitsubishi Outlander
Ford Territory
Holden Captiva
Toyota Highlander
Hyundai Santa Fe

Most of them are pretty small in the third row and you have little or no luggage space but are still very handy.

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  #1166750 2-Nov-2014 08:12
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We have an Honda Odyssey Absolute, excellent family car. I have tall kids and any of them fit in the back two seats, no issues for leg space.




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  #1166753 2-Nov-2014 08:24
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RunningMan: Ford Territory have a 7 seat version as well. The very back seats are really only good for kids though.


sorry should have added budget. territory is expensive to buy and expensive to maintain (too heavy eveyrhting wears like crazy). all my fords have had problems




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  #1166754 2-Nov-2014 08:25
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Handle9: Most SUVs have an option for 7 seats now. There will be others but the ones I know of are:

Mitsubishi Outlander
Ford Territory
Holden Captiva
Toyota Highlander
Hyundai Santa Fe

Most of them are pretty small in the third row and you have little or no luggage space but are still very handy.


sorry I have added my budget $10-15k




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  #1166756 2-Nov-2014 08:26
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DamageInc: We have an Honda Odyssey Absolute, excellent family car. I have tall kids and any of them fit in the back two seats, no issues for leg space.


easy to get in and out? no breakdowns/unexpected repairs esp if pricey




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  #1166757 2-Nov-2014 08:27
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KiwiNZ: Toyota and Honda are the definition of reliability. Mitsubishi used to have some issues especially oil burning at higher KM's but that may now not be an issue.

As for extra seats in the Xtrail, access once installed would be a pain and if you have the sliding rear floor you will lose that. I suggest you talk to your local Nissan dealer and NZTA.


yeah I have had 3 Mitsubishis all cost me more than the car to maintain during my ownership - but could just be bad luck but it did leave a mark on me




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  #1166758 2-Nov-2014 08:29
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I say that because I had a Toyota that leaked oil (ok no biggie, it was a 82,000k jap import anyways) and a Honda that had a CVT problem, one with blow gasket (umm engine oil didn't stay more than a few days)




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My money would be on an odyssey and aim for either a VTi or VTi-L (NZ Spec) or Absolute (Jap Import), the absolute has nice half leather black trim and is a sports version of sorts (17in factory mags, sports tuned suspension), mechanically it is the same powertrain as NZ spec Accords (2.4l 4cy 140kw with normal 5spd auto versus other odysseys 'meagre' 124kw with CVT)

I was half seriously looking at these a few months back and really the only model worth buying was the absolute spec but without the factory nav/reverse camera setup (it cannot be converted to english or easily replaced) some absolutes came out with a more convention double din stereo fitment which can far more easily be swapped out to any one of a number of touchscreen head units that give the usual reverse camera, gps and bluetooth functions for a moderate cost

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I will add avoid Holden Captiva(craptiva), they are absolutely rubbish. We purchased one new in 2012 and it was a nightmare, it had been back to the dealer five times before it had reached 2,000kms. The when away at Christmas 2012 it had a catastrophic electrical systems failure where we lost Traction Control, ABS, Hill Start assist, Descent Assist and various other issues. We handed back the vehicle and replaced it. It had only done 2600kms.

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  #1166764 2-Nov-2014 08:44
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KiwiNZ: I will add avoid Holden Captiva(craptiva), they are absolutely rubbish. We purchased one new in 2012 and it was a nightmare, it had been back to the dealer five times before it had reached 2,000kms. The when away at Christmas 2012 it had a catastrophic electrical systems failure where we lost Traction Control, ABS, Hill Start assist, Descent Assist and various other issues. We handed back the vehicle and replaced it. It had only done 2600kms.


Korean made. Phew there is still hope for the Commodore ...

Ok I will remember this.






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  #1166766 2-Nov-2014 08:47
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Wade: My money would be on an odyssey and aim for either a VTi or VTi-L (NZ Spec) or Absolute (Jap Import), the absolute has nice half leather black trim and is a sports version of sorts (17in factory mags, sports tuned suspension), mechanically it is the same powertrain as NZ spec Accords (2.4l 4cy 140kw with normal 5spd auto versus other odysseys 'meagre' 124kw with CVT)

I was half seriously looking at these a few months back and really the only model worth buying was the absolute spec but without the factory nav/reverse camera setup (it cannot be converted to english or easily replaced) some absolutes came out with a more convention double din stereo fitment which can far more easily be swapped out to any one of a number of touchscreen head units that give the usual reverse camera, gps and bluetooth functions for a moderate cost


Thanks. My aim is not to get the best travelling thing, as I have another car with more than 140kw for that :D.

Just want the most practical cheapest running 7-8 seater. Problem with 8 seat is the options go right down to just about 3 cars - estima (Previa), Mazda MPV, Older land cruiser prado (expensive!!), busses/vans ... I'm sure there are other more expensive ones




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  #1166767 2-Nov-2014 08:49
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there is another option, drive 2 cars :D but I'm asking for education on above models :D

thanks guys keep it comin'




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I've got a 2001 Odyssey. Looked at the Stream as well but it was trying to be both a station wagon and a people mover, and failing at both (no air-con to back seats). Odyssey has lots of room (even 6-foot me can travel in the very rear seats for short distances). Mechanically-wise it has been good. Water pump is hard to reach, so it is worth inspecting/replacing this when belt is done.

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