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Topic # 160541 10-Jan-2015 20:16
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Any thoughts on 6'' car speakers...brands...running a alpine head unit no amp...




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  Reply # 1211739 10-Jan-2015 20:21
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If you are not going to make a full on enclosure for it but just stick it in a hole in the door then its all much of a muchness really.




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  Reply # 1211784 10-Jan-2015 21:30
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richms: If you are not going to make a full on enclosure for it but just stick it in a hole in the door then its all much of a muchness really.


... unless the speaker is so big that it stops you opening your windows.




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  Reply # 1211788 10-Jan-2015 21:43
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I've got a brand new pioneer 6x9, it's on offer right now but can offer you a bit less than advertised price if there is no taker.
Checkout http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=829242057

PM me if you're interested ☺

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  Reply # 1211835 10-Jan-2015 22:48
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richms: If you are not going to make a full on enclosure for it but just stick it in a hole in the door then its all much of a muchness really.


... unless the speaker is so big that it stops you opening your windows.

Or causes passing cyclists to stick to the doors.





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  Reply # 1211927 11-Jan-2015 13:04
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already have some 6x9s in shed never used but to big for the door cheers




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  Reply # 1211967 11-Jan-2015 17:15
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What do you want to achieve?  

If you are not going to have an amp ever and just want drop in sound, then just do plain old co-axials. Cheap, look to spend around $80. Any brand is fine, they are all much of a muchness. Parallel imported have a fair whack of them to choose from and are a lot cheaper than repco etc. I can't think of a car audio shop to recommend any more, not sure what exists now. Have a listen to their sound boards and see if anything sounds better to you. I personally have always liked Infinity, but some people find the tweeters a bit bright. They are silk dome now though so that should help them be a bit more subdued. Also check what is currently in the doors, buy the same size speaker as what you currently have for ease of install.

If you want to do more than that, get an amp and a set of splits. Splits will help because they usually have better components and they have a crossover so the speakers are playing their optimum frequencies. Mount the tweeters somewhere that they sound good to you. Mounting tweeters and speakers is equal parts science and black magic. Mount them where they fit but also play to see if you can get them sounding good. Long cables, blu tack and a good CD will help here. 

*EDIT* took out a fair bit of the post because I was being a dick. 






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  Reply # 1211979 11-Jan-2015 17:48
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I recently got 4 pioneer 6" components from Ksound in otara, only $80 per pair,

there 4channel components and great sounding.

ts-a1685s is the model number

pioneers is my go to brand for car audio.


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  Reply # 1211987 11-Jan-2015 18:05
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every brand has cheap and nasty and nice and expensive. i won't look at brand per se for quality comparison. but i gather from this thread quality of sound is not the key.




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  Reply # 1212088 11-Jan-2015 20:26
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Focal 6.5" components. Very high sensitivity and sound great running off a headunit. For comparison I run Alpine R-type Components off 2 x 60RMS amp, and my friends Focals running off headunit sound the same.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-stereos/speakers/other/auction-830787089.htm

or 2way if components are too pricey

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-stereos/speakers/other/auction-829989159.htm





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  Reply # 1212092 11-Jan-2015 20:27
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well just wanting to replace whats there..think they r 6'' 150 cm across sound is important...seems most opinions suggest all same...for a standard put in door speaker...ive seen cervin vega..infinity..jbl gto I think...will keep looking...maybe an amp is needed lol who knows








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  Reply # 1212101 11-Jan-2015 20:42
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you don't need an amp if you don't want it eardrums bursting LOUD. but sorry can't help with which speaker is best bang for buck ... maybe look at sensitivity (dB/1 watt at a fixed distance), frequency response and some reviews ... umm .. hmm ... can't help sorry




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  Reply # 1212331 12-Jan-2015 10:36
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foxy38: well just wanting to replace whats there..think they r 6'' 150 cm across sound is important...seems most opinions suggest all same...for a standard put in door speaker...ive seen cervin vega..infinity..jbl gto I think...will keep looking...maybe an amp is needed lol who knows



AMP does not necessarily mean ear bursting volume. It also means cleaner sound and better frequency reproduction (when combined with some mid quality or higher speakers).

Doesnt have to be an expensive exercise either, I managed to pick up a Clarion APX2121 amp for $50 new, a wiring kit $30, and Alpine Type R components. It sounds so much better.

If you are happy with factory sound and simply want to fill the hole. Stick any $80-$150 6"\6.5" speaker in their and run off the headunit.

Last thing to mention is treating your front doors, regardless of what you do, adding some Dynamat round where speakers are mounted sealing your doors and also some foam deadner on the inside of your door cards can make a big difference to your mid bass.

Let us know your max budget and we can start suggesting some gear for you.



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  Reply # 1212394 12-Jan-2015 11:45
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but in a normal car travelling any "clean" sound at normal volumes is going to be blended nicely with road noise engine noise car noise wind noise tyre noise vibration noise ... I don't see much point. but again, that's me.




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  Reply # 1212449 12-Jan-2015 12:38
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joker97: but in a normal car travelling any "clean" sound at normal volumes is going to be blended nicely with road noise engine noise car noise wind noise tyre noise vibration noise ... I don't see much point. but again, that's me.


Even so, factory headunit and $80 speakers (no matter what brand) sound rubbish even at normal listening levels.

Rubbish sound + aforementioned road noise = more rubbish sound


compared to 


Excellent sound + aformentioned noise = good sound


Sound deadning is a different topic but its reletively cheap to deaden a car and eliminate a good deal of road noise.




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  Reply # 1212453 12-Jan-2015 12:42
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for an audiophile the above may be correct but for most people they wont notice the difference between a set of $80 speakers and a set of $300 speakers even with an amp in the mix

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