Wellington SH1/SH2 road works

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#160628 14-Jan-2015 07:56

Anyone know what's going on? Right now it's a confusing dogs breakfast that seems to be worse than what was there before. Are they finished? Are they working toward some kind of sensible outcome? I can't find any information or communication and if affects tens of thousands of people. Yesterday I suggested the Dom Post do a story but I don't even know if they read my suggestion.

NZTA publishes upcoming changes on their website, Wellington region here, traffic bulletins here. I can't see anything at all.

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#1213523 14-Jan-2015 07:59

What roadworks in particular?

If you're meaning the changes on SH1 between Aotea Quay and Ngauaranga Gorge you'll obviously missed the huge amounts of advertising they've been doing for this. They're widening the motorway and making the lanes narrower to make 4 lanes all the way. This started last week and full details are on the NZTA site http://www.nzta.govt.nz/projects/ngauranga-to-aotea-quay/index.html

I just hope it doesn't make things worse like their changes to the SH1/SH2 Northbound merge did - this made traffic flow to Petone worse, not better.

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#1213524 14-Jan-2015 08:09

Thanks for the link. They don't make it easy to find on their website. As for advertising I haven't seen any - though I don't watch TV or read newspapers, and I block advertising online, so I'm quite difficult to advertise to.

That page says they're widening the southbound Ngauranga offramp. Right now it looks like they're just randomly moving lanes about, it seems to be more confusing and dangerous. They're adding another northbound lane, which I guess will help, I don't travel that road at all during peak times because it's always congested and slow.

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#1213534 14-Jan-2015 08:45

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/network/projects/results.html

Lists all the Previous/current/future state highway projects

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#1214636 14-Jan-2015 11:25

timmmay: Anyone know what's going on? Right now it's a confusing dogs breakfast that seems to be worse than what was there before. Are they finished? Are they working toward some kind of sensible outcome? I can't find any information or communication and if affects tens of thousands of people. Yesterday I suggested the Dom Post do a story but I don't even know if they read my suggestion.

NZTA publishes upcoming changes on their website, Wellington region here, traffic bulletins here. I can't see anything at all.

If it's anything like the usual NZ roadworks, look forward to waiting far too long for completion because no one works nights, weekends etc.

Then look forward to them coming back and doing it again in 12 months or so because they did it so cheaply and badly the first time....

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#1214640 14-Jan-2015 11:29

Geektastic:
timmmay: Anyone know what's going on? Right now it's a confusing dogs breakfast that seems to be worse than what was there before. Are they finished? Are they working toward some kind of sensible outcome? I can't find any information or communication and if affects tens of thousands of people. Yesterday I suggested the Dom Post do a story but I don't even know if they read my suggestion.

NZTA publishes upcoming changes on their website, Wellington region here, traffic bulletins here. I can't see anything at all.

If it's anything like the usual NZ roadworks, look forward to waiting far too long for completion because no one works nights, weekends etc.

Then look forward to them coming back and doing it again in 12 months or so because they did it so cheaply and badly the first time....

Actually most of the work done on the urban motorway by Fulton Hogan is done at night

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#1214705 14-Jan-2015 12:22

KiwiNZ:
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timmmay: Anyone know what's going on? Right now it's a confusing dogs breakfast that seems to be worse than what was there before. Are they finished? Are they working toward some kind of sensible outcome? I can't find any information or communication and if affects tens of thousands of people. Yesterday I suggested the Dom Post do a story but I don't even know if they read my suggestion.

NZTA publishes upcoming changes on their website, Wellington region here, traffic bulletins here. I can't see anything at all.

If it's anything like the usual NZ roadworks, look forward to waiting far too long for completion because no one works nights, weekends etc.

Then look forward to them coming back and doing it again in 12 months or so because they did it so cheaply and badly the first time....

Actually most of the work done on the urban motorway by Fulton Hogan is done at night

That makes a change then.

The work on the Rimutaka Hill took forever because there was no night working, everyone knocked off in summer 6 hours before it got dark, no one worked weekends and so on.

I challenged our local highways manager at SWDC when some work over here took months longer than it should have taken and said that I hoped the contractor was on a contract that they got bonuses for early completion and penalties for late completion.

"Oh no, we don't use contracts like that in NZ." he said.

"Well it's about time you did!" I said.

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#1214708 14-Jan-2015 12:27

The Muldoon's corner upgrade took forever, it was delayed by the weather and issues with the rock structure. But agree road works are painful here. It was actually better under the old MOW

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#1214718 14-Jan-2015 12:47

Geektastic:
KiwiNZ:
Geektastic:
timmmay: Anyone know what's going on? Right now it's a confusing dogs breakfast that seems to be worse than what was there before. Are they finished? Are they working toward some kind of sensible outcome? I can't find any information or communication and if affects tens of thousands of people. Yesterday I suggested the Dom Post do a story but I don't even know if they read my suggestion.

NZTA publishes upcoming changes on their website, Wellington region here, traffic bulletins here. I can't see anything at all.

If it's anything like the usual NZ roadworks, look forward to waiting far too long for completion because no one works nights, weekends etc.

Then look forward to them coming back and doing it again in 12 months or so because they did it so cheaply and badly the first time....

Actually most of the work done on the urban motorway by Fulton Hogan is done at night

That makes a change then.

The work on the Rimutaka Hill took forever because there was no night working, everyone knocked off in summer 6 hours before it got dark, no one worked weekends and so on.

I challenged our local highways manager at SWDC when some work over here took months longer than it should have taken and said that I hoped the contractor was on a contract that they got bonuses for early completion and penalties for late completion.

"Oh no, we don't use contracts like that in NZ." he said.

"Well it's about time you did!" I said.

I remember someone saying that part of the contract was that they had to be off the hill by 4pm and there were a bunch of other rules around when they could work. Not sure who set the rules, NZTA maybe??

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#1214731 14-Jan-2015 12:55

kiwitrc:
Geektastic:
KiwiNZ:
Geektastic:
timmmay: Anyone know what's going on? Right now it's a confusing dogs breakfast that seems to be worse than what was there before. Are they finished? Are they working toward some kind of sensible outcome? I can't find any information or communication and if affects tens of thousands of people. Yesterday I suggested the Dom Post do a story but I don't even know if they read my suggestion.

NZTA publishes upcoming changes on their website, Wellington region here, traffic bulletins here. I can't see anything at all.

If it's anything like the usual NZ roadworks, look forward to waiting far too long for completion because no one works nights, weekends etc.

Then look forward to them coming back and doing it again in 12 months or so because they did it so cheaply and badly the first time....

Actually most of the work done on the urban motorway by Fulton Hogan is done at night

That makes a change then.

The work on the Rimutaka Hill took forever because there was no night working, everyone knocked off in summer 6 hours before it got dark, no one worked weekends and so on.

I challenged our local highways manager at SWDC when some work over here took months longer than it should have taken and said that I hoped the contractor was on a contract that they got bonuses for early completion and penalties for late completion.

"Oh no, we don't use contracts like that in NZ." he said.

"Well it's about time you did!" I said.

I remember someone saying that part of the contract was that they had to be off the hill by 4pm and there were a bunch of other rules around when they could work. Not sure who set the rules, NZTA maybe??

I found that there was a complete lack of integration - the people who prepare the base were not the same people who surfaced it (so there was weeks of gaps between the two instead of hours), then yet another firm did the white lines, so there were weeks with no lines because they were busy somewhere else etc etc.

It was a mass of inefficiency.

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#1214732 14-Jan-2015 12:58

You may well be right. It always seemed a hive of activity when I went over on a Friday arvo, but maybe there were packing up to go home :)

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#1214754 14-Jan-2015 13:22

A recent road resurfacing in central Wellington was quite efficient - rechipped, sealed, and painted within 48 hours.

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#1214760 14-Jan-2015 13:27

timmmay: A recent road resurfacing in central Wellington was quite efficient - rechipped, sealed, and painted within 48 hours.

They do that every year in Hutt City then have to redo it 12 months later

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#1214986 14-Jan-2015 17:42

Squirting a bit of tar on top, shovelling chippings on that and letting the public sweep them off with their paintwork and car windscreens is not how you build a proper road!

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#1215107 14-Jan-2015 21:10

timmmay: A recent road resurfacing in central Wellington was quite efficient - rechipped, sealed, and painted within 48 hours.

Obviously more efficient than when they painted the tsunami safe zone lines on a street in Owhiro Bay immediately before he road was scheduled to be resealed!

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#1215234 15-Jan-2015 07:10

Today the south bound lanes are back to normal. The weirdness of the past couple of days appears to have been them moving the lanes slightly.

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