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xyeovillian

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# 181065 1-Oct-2015 09:20

New tyre advice please I have a 2013 Fiesta and my last wof they said I would probably need 2 new rear tyres existing Continental ContiPremium Contact 2 only done 35,000k I've had 2 punctures on these tyres. Had a Lancer for 10 years never had any punctures.
So looking at alternative if possible had no issues with existing tyres as regards grip in wet or dry conditions.

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# 1397778 1-Oct-2015 09:26

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Suggest taking car to tyre shop.
They tend to know this industry.

Punctures tend to occur when you drive over sharp things.

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# 1397779 1-Oct-2015 09:30

Interesting tyre thread here. Agree that you should avoid driving over sharp things ;)

35KK doesn't sound like much. I've done 70KK in my car in the past five years or so, the I've had to buy 6 new tyres in that time. Actually maybe 35KK isn't too bad, and one pair always wears out before the other.

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# 1397791 1-Oct-2015 09:56

do you rotate your tyres every 10-12000km? have you had an alignment? these really help with tyre life

as for replacements, depends on size and budget

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# 1397796 1-Oct-2015 10:07

xyeovillian: New tyre advice please I have a 2013 Fiesta and my last wof they said I would probably need 2 new rear tyres existing Continental ContiPremium Contact 2 only done 35,000k I've had 2 punctures on these tyres. Had a Lancer for 10 years never had any punctures.
So looking at alternative if possible had no issues with existing tyres as regards grip in wet or dry conditions.

This does not make sense at all. You do not specify the condition of your front tyres but the implication from your post is that the fronts are OK and are still the originals.

The Fiesta is front wheel drive and the rear tyres should last two, three or more times as long as the fronts.[* see why below]

If your rear tyres are wearing out faster than the fronts then something is wrong. It could be tyre pressures - especially if your punctures were meant that you were driving on under-inflated tyres for an extended period of time.

Other factors would include:

A dragging parking brake or sticking brakes.

Wrong wheel alignment.

Faulty shock absorbers.

Wrongly mounted tyres or wheels. (Perhaps after the puncture repairs.)

You should get somebody to have a look at the car to see if there is an underlying issue.

(Or has somebody swapped the front and rear tyres over at some point?)

*Why do the rear tyres on a front wheel drive car last so long?

On any car, most of the braking effort - and thus tyre wear under braking - comes through the front wheels.

On a front wheel drive car, all of the traction effort - and the associated tyre wear - comes through the front wheels.

On a front wheel drive car, most of the weight is on the front wheels and thus the front tyres will accumulate more wear under cornering than the rears.

Front wheel drives cars can even suffer from such slow rates of wear on the rear tyres that they can end up being replaced because they are getting old well before they are worn out.

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# 1397819 1-Oct-2015 11:24

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jpoc:

The Fiesta is front wheel drive and the rear tyres should last two, three or more times as long as the fronts

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# 1397847 1-Oct-2015 11:45

Don't try that at home!

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# 1397915 1-Oct-2015 12:40

xyeovillian: New tyre advice please I have a 2013 Fiesta and my last wof they said I would probably need 2 new rear tyres existing Continental ContiPremium Contact 2 only done 35,000k I've had 2 punctures on these tyres. Had a Lancer for 10 years never had any punctures.
So looking at alternative if possible had no issues with existing tyres as regards grip in wet or dry conditions.

Hi, I have the same car - zetec model.

The tyres that come new with the car (continental conti blah blah) - I throw them away at 20k. I hate them. They are pricey but I found it 'hard' ride. I highly recommend Bridgestone Ecopia range - make use of their buy 4 tyres for the price of 3 deals (the company actually lose money with this deal). The ecopia tyre is good and still good for me after 20k.

Oh just remember, if you are only getting two new tyres, put those two new one at the rear - not the front.

Edit: pricing wise - ecopia range is a premium product so you'll be looking about $200 per tyre (hence better deal with buy 3 for 4 deals).

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# 1397923 1-Oct-2015 12:49

I would recommend Bridgestone Tyre Centre for advise and usually great pricing.

Obviously they will offer you a Bridgestone/Firestone option only but I don't see a problem with that!

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# 1397924 1-Oct-2015 12:52

dickytim: I would recommend Bridgestone Tyre Centre for advise and usually great pricing.

Obviously they will offer you a Bridgestone/Firestone option only but I don't see a problem with that!

Actually they don't just offer bridgestone/firestone. In fact some of the premium firestone/bridgestone will need to be ordered. They do have the cheaper (unbranded) one as well.

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# 1397925 1-Oct-2015 12:53

Jase2985: do you rotate your tyres every 10-12000km? have you had an alignment? these really help with tyre life

There is no point.
The whole tyre rotating thing is a load of garbage IMO.
It costs money to take car in and rotate (possibly re-balance) tyres, and if you going to be rotating them every 10k that money spent over the lifetime of a tyre can easily buy new tyres.
The tyre shop will also try and tell you that you need wheel alignment done at every change. This is a waste of money too. Instead have your wheel alignment done/checked when sending your car in for a service.

nakedmolerat:
Oh just remember, if you are only getting two new tyres, put those two new one at the rear - not the front.

Care to explain? I really dont see the point.

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# 1397950 1-Oct-2015 13:09

DizzyD:
Jase2985: do you rotate your tyres every 10-12000km? have you had an alignment? these really help with tyre life

There is no point.
The whole tyre rotating thing is a load of garbage IMO.
It costs money to take car in and rotate (possibly re-balance) tyres, and if you going to be rotating them every 10k that money spent over the lifetime of a tyre can easily buy new tyres.
The tyre shop will also try and tell you that you need wheel alignment done at every change. This is a waste of money too. Instead have your wheel alignment done/checked when sending your car in for a service.

nakedmolerat:
Oh just remember, if you are only getting two new tyres, put those two new one at the rear - not the front.

Care to explain? I really dont see the point.

BS, you can, depending on the tyres, rotate them yourself, costs you 30 mins of your time, and can get you 10000km + from from a pair of tyres, thats a saving of 1 tyre over a life of 40000k, so depending on the brand/model $100-250 every tyre change

on the same note i could say there is no point servicing your car, will still work fine for a while but eventually will fail prematurely. same deal for tyres.

I do a wheel alignment every time i change a set of tyres. so about every 40000km, its amazing how much things can change over that time.

AND

Please lets not get into the whole new tyres on the front/back debate again, some say front some say rear, but there are many schools of thought on this and its not what the thread is about.

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# 1397964 1-Oct-2015 13:28

Jase2985:

BS, you can, depending on the tyres, rotate them yourself, costs you 30 mins of your time, and can get you 10000km + from from a pair of tyres, thats a saving of 1 tyre over a life of 40000k, so depending on the brand/model $100-250 every tyre change

Too many variables to say that I will get 10000km + from rotating the tyres.

I agree that rotating the tyres can help prolong the life of the tyres. I just don't think its worth it. Especially if you going to take your car in to a service center for them to do it. Save that money for new tyres.
If you can do it yourself, then go for it.

Jase2985:

on the same note i could say there is no point servicing your car, will still work fine for a while but eventually will fail prematurely. same deal for tyres.

Tyres don't need servicing. Totally different scenario.

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# 1397971 1-Oct-2015 13:37

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I don't bother rotating, well for most that means simply swapping from back to front as Tyres are directional. I prefer to let 2 wear out at a time, put the new ones on the back and swap the back to the front. As for tyre selection, depends how you drive. Ask the tyre shop for recommendations.

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# 1397990 1-Oct-2015 13:48

Jase2985:

BS, you can, depending on the tyres, rotate them yourself, costs you 30 mins of your time, and can get you 10000km + from from a pair of tyres, thats a saving of 1 tyre over a life of 40000k, so depending on the brand/model $100-250 every tyre change

Your post has got me thinking.

What is the $value of 10000km on a pair of tyres?

I have 195/50R16's Bridgestone Ecopia's on my car. They cost $185 each, including fitting/balancing.

Brilliant tyres and I estimate I will probably get around 60k on them without rotation. Therefore they cost me approximately $30 per 10 000 km.

Rotating these tyres every 10000-12000km as recommended means about 6 rotations over 60k. That a lot of rotations to safe just $30.

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# 1397996 1-Oct-2015 13:52

scuwp: Ask the tyre shop for recommendations.

I avoid this.

They love to offer rotations/re-balancing/re-alignment with any wheel change.

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