New car rotors - hub rusting

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#233839 5-May-2018 12:32

Hi I got 4 new disc brake rotors for my toyota from Pit Stop, thinking it's cheaper than what's recommended by the dealer (not sure who they sub let to do the job, price was no different!).

The front rotors are fine, but both rear rotor "hubs" (not sure what they're called) started rusting immediately.

Pit Stop says that's normal.

Is that normal? Will it affect the longevity of the rotor?

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#2008385 5-May-2018 12:33

Nothing to worry about its surface rust

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#2008389 5-May-2018 12:37

completely normal, wont affect anything

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#2008491 5-May-2018 17:23

I agree that they'll probably be fine, but jeesh - that's quite a lot of rust - and the surface of the disk itself actually look quite pitted. My boat trailer disks don't look as bad as that - and they're probably 3 or 4 years old - and get dunked in salt water regularly.

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#2008544 5-May-2018 21:13

thanks guys. Yup added pit stop to the avoid list too. man that's a lot of places I avoid!

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#2008546 5-May-2018 21:17

Are they official parts? They do look quite rusty, so I wonder if the steel is the same.

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#2008552 5-May-2018 21:49

i doubt it will be the same steel

you could take it off and paint it with high temp paint

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#2008585 6-May-2018 08:26

Did they put new pads on when they replaced the rotors?

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#2008593 6-May-2018 09:06

gbwelly:
Did they put new pads on when they replaced the rotors?

Of course they would of I hope if they didn't then they should not be in business

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#2008594 6-May-2018 09:08

gbwelly:

Did they put new pads on when they replaced the rotors?

Tl;dr - Yes.

Long version

Toyota dealer - you need new pads and new rotors within next year. We don't do it here, send it to brake shop, will cost $1000.

Me: ouch, let me try pit stop.

Pit stop, takes a look. Ah you only need new front rotors and 4 pads. Rotors too thin to machine. Rears are fine. Cost less.

Me: ok can you change oil and filter and change brake fluid.

Service day.

Front rotors, 4 pads, change oil, filter, do extra service "checks" I didn't ask for, change wiper blades I didn't ask for, but guess what:

I get a note at pick up - by the way you also need new rear rotors.

I said - why didn't you call me or change it anyway?

Pitstop- oh you only said change front rotors.

That got me really mad. I was already lost for words. In the end, it wasted my time, it didn't cost less for the brakes compared to the dealer. ANd I am sure if I took it back to the dealer with the rust they would do something and not send me away.

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#2008601 6-May-2018 09:21

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gbwelly:

Did they put new pads on when they replaced the rotors?

Of course they would of I hope if they didn't then they should not be in business

John

lol its not essential to do this as using new pads on new rotors can have a higher chance of glazing the discs causing under performance of the brake system.

you should use old pads on new rotors to help prevent this then change the pads after 500-1000km

saying they should not be in business is ridiculous

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#2008605 6-May-2018 09:29

Not sure that it would apply to your particular model of car, but if a common and relatively ordinary one then aftermarket disks are perhaps $100/ pair from Supercheap, BNT etc, reasonable quality pads perhaps $50 for a set, so all up costs about $300. There are some possible complications if DIY change the rear pads/disks, the workshop should have the tools and know what they're doing. I'd be surprised if labour would have been two hours to do the whole job - front and rears.

I think you've probably been ripped off.

It's possible that if the vehicle is a "performance" model, and has drilled rotors, larger non-standard rotors, special compound performance pads etc specified as OEM, then parts cost could be high, sometimes extremely high, but for an ordinary car - then nope. Parts should be very cheap, easy to obtain, and it's a simple job to change them over.

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#2008614 6-May-2018 09:52

Batman:

Toyota dealer - you need new pads and new rotors within next year. We don't do it here, send it to brake shop, will cost $1000.

"Dealer" as in car salesman type outfit - or OEM dealership with workshop?

If the latter, then I think it's staggering and unbelievable news that an OEM workshop would say they no longer carry out basic servicing such as replacing disks / pads.

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#2008620 6-May-2018 10:26

Linux:
gbwelly:

Did they put new pads on when they replaced the rotors?

Of course they would of I hope if they didn't then they should not be in business

John

I asked, as for a new rotor there is an astounding amount of scoring in it.

Looks like my 20 year old rears.

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#2008622 6-May-2018 10:28

Batman:

thanks guys. Yup added pit stop to the avoid list too. man that's a lot of places I avoid!

I stopped using Pitstop around 1997.... when I took my car in to get the handbrake fixed.

Went to get the WOF, and it failed, on the handbrake!! I don't know what they did. Dad ended up fixing it for me, dirt and stuff had gotten into the cabling sleeves and was causing some jamming. I really didn't think they'd done anything but I was young and really had no idea about my rights back then.

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#2008624 6-May-2018 10:47

Jase2985:
lol its not essential to do this as using new pads on new rotors can have a higher chance of glazing the discs causing under performance of the brake system.

you should use old pads on new rotors to help prevent this then change the pads after 500-1000km

saying they should not be in business is ridiculous

This seems peculiar advice. Millions of new cars cope with the new/new situation.

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