Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.




1509 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

# 259989 5-Nov-2019 08:03
One person supports this post
Send private message quote this post

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/117153250/expiring-learner-and-restricted-licences-will-be-extended-by-two-years

 

 

 

Just Why ??? , If you have not already moved on with your learners or restricted that's your fault. Don't you get five years to have it sorted I mean come on. 





Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding : Ice cream man , Ice cream man


View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
 1 | 2
21427 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 2348370 5-Nov-2019 08:18
Send private message quote this post

Agreed. If it's financial reasons, then provide financial support of some description.

 

 


1019 posts

Uber Geek


  # 2348371 5-Nov-2019 08:22
Send private message quote this post

If people are obeying their licence conditions, I don't see why they need to be forced to get a restricted/full. Took me 13 years to progress from a learner licence to full. I literally did the full driving test three months to the day after my restricted test (absolute minimum possible), because I finally had a need for it. Starting from nothing would have added six months to the process and been somewhat of an inconvenience.


 
 
 
 


39 posts

Geek


  # 2348372 5-Nov-2019 08:26
Send private message quote this post

Dam mine was set to expire next year but i have only passed my full last month!! naturally this had to happen!

 

For me it was really a few things i wanted to make sure i had enough driving experience on my own before i went for my full, ive only had my own car for about 2 years so i wanted to feel comfortable. Cost was abit of a factor too as i had to take into account (which i ended up needing todo) if i had failed my full the first time and needing to re book but looking back at it now, the expense was worth it as i got onto it months before my restricted expired. 

 

Though i do think they need more testing officers available as i had my full re booked 2 times (once for initial test and one for retest)


21427 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 2348374 5-Nov-2019 08:28
One person supports this post
Send private message quote this post

If the lost of licensing is a problem, the reality is you can't afford a car.


578 posts

Ultimate Geek


  # 2348380 5-Nov-2019 08:51
One person supports this post
Send private message quote this post

Ok, a couple scenarios.

 

 

 

1 - On your restricted license you can carry family. So if you've got a vehicle, and have no need to hire a car or drive for work then why need your full license?

2 - ID purposes only, there's the 18+ car which is purely for confirmation of age only, it's not meant as an identification verification of any sorts.

 

3 - Fear of failure has put many off getting their restricted as the old restricted was easier than the full. Nowadays the restricted is significantly harder than the full. The failure rate is 43% nationwide (March 2018) which would put a lot of people off. It's also a lot more expensive at $134 a pop. If you fail it's $86 each time. For something that's not 100% a necessity that's a lot of cash for a lot of the population. 

 

4 - From the darker side of things, honestly your risk of being caught is quite low. In my time driving, I've only been checked 1 in 10 years? Driving illegally is easier than ever.


21427 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 2348381 5-Nov-2019 08:56
3 people support this post
Send private message quote this post

3) If you can't meet the standard for a full drivers license after a couple of years of driving, you seriously need to look at why. The restricted license is supposed to be temporary whilst you gain the experience required to meet the full license requirements.

 

The cost of licensing is a rounding error on the total cost of car ownership.


699 posts

Ultimate Geek


  # 2348383 5-Nov-2019 08:58
Send private message quote this post

If your Learners or Restricted licence expires, what is required to renew it?

 

Is it much the same as for an expiring Full?  Pay money, get eyes checked, get new one?  Or do you have to resit the tests as well?

 

If it's only a renewal, I don't see the issue.  It expires, you renew it.  Just like you do with your passport.





 
 
 
 


Lock him up!
10795 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

  # 2348385 5-Nov-2019 09:03
One person supports this post
Send private message quote this post

tehgerbil:

 

4 - From the darker side of things, honestly your risk of being caught is quite low. In my time driving, I've only been checked 1 in 10 years? Driving illegally is easier than ever.

 

 

That is something I have noticed in a lot of areas. The rules are strict but enforcement is minimal, making it relatively low-risk to ignore the rules, which encourages contempt for them at the same time. Laws should be realistic and they should be rigorously enforced. Otherwise there is no point to them. Lack of enforcement is usually a cost-cutting measure and it is self-defeating.

 

 

 

 





I don't think there is ever a bad time to talk about how absurd war is, how old men make decisions and young people die. - George Clooney
 


130 posts

Master Geek

Lifetime subscriber

  # 2348386 5-Nov-2019 09:03
Send private message quote this post

geoffwnz:

 

If your Learners or Restricted licence expires, what is required to renew it?

 

Is it much the same as for an expiring Full?  Pay money, get eyes checked, get new one?  Or do you have to resit the tests as well?

 

If it's only a renewal, I don't see the issue.  It expires, you renew it.  Just like you do with your passport.

 

 

After the current 5 years, it expires and needs to be started again. I've learnt this going through L and R on my class 6.


507 posts

Ultimate Geek


  # 2348387 5-Nov-2019 09:03
Send private message quote this post

I've had my motorbike learners for 22 years, i ride a 150cc scooter and don't use it after hours. I have no need for a getting restricted or full. Have never needed or wanted a larger bike but government is going to make me spend money on something i'll never use. Will take the free 2 year extension though. 


130 posts

Master Geek

Lifetime subscriber

  # 2348389 5-Nov-2019 09:05
Send private message quote this post

langi27:

 

I've had my motorbike learners for 22 years, i ride a 150cc scooter and don't use it after hours. I have no need for a getting restricted or full. Have never needed or wanted a larger bike but government is going to make me spend money on something i'll never use. Will take the free 2 year extension though. 

 

 

I possibly would have done the same, riding a 250cc bike. But with CBTA now, it makes it a hell of a lot easier, so went onto my 6R in August after getting my 6L in Feb.


507 posts

Ultimate Geek


  # 2348391 5-Nov-2019 09:07
Send private message quote this post

evilonenz:

 

langi27:

 

I've had my motorbike learners for 22 years, i ride a 150cc scooter and don't use it after hours. I have no need for a getting restricted or full. Have never needed or wanted a larger bike but government is going to make me spend money on something i'll never use. Will take the free 2 year extension though. 

 

 

I possibly would have done the same, riding a 250cc bike. But with CBTA now, it makes it a hell of a lot easier, so went onto my 6R in August after getting my 6L in Feb.

 

 

Thanks i'll check it out. I never knew about CBTA. 


614 posts

Ultimate Geek


  # 2348392 5-Nov-2019 09:11
Send private message quote this post

tehgerbil:

 

1 - On your restricted license you can carry family. So if you've got a vehicle, and have no need to hire a car or drive for work then why need your full license?

 

This was the situation for me. I was a bit late to get my restricted in the first place (about 20) and by then I had a partner with a full licence, and most of my friends had full licences. I had almost no pressure to graduate to a full (other than the embarrassment of showing a yellow card when buying booze etc) so let it slide until it was about to expire before I got off my arse and did the test.


496 posts

Ultimate Geek


  # 2348399 5-Nov-2019 09:48
Send private message quote this post

JaseNZ:

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/117153250/expiring-learner-and-restricted-licences-will-be-extended-by-two-years

 

 

 

Just Why ??? , If you have not already moved on with your learners or restricted that's your fault. Don't you get five years to have it sorted I mean come on. 

 



 

Had my learners for nearly 20 years. Drove everywhere, only got my full sorted out this year, one of my main reasons was cost, not having a car to sit it in and being lazy (i feel the last reason is more the reason). i have family who are on there learners and restricted for 10+ years. 





Balm its gone!


981 posts

Ultimate Geek

Subscriber

  # 2348409 5-Nov-2019 10:24
Send private message quote this post

I still think we should have a similar licencing system as in Australia.

 

Written driving test

 

Yellow L Plate = 1 yr very restricted with minimum driving 120 hours log book

 

Practical driving test (performed on country roads not just town/city)

 

Red P plate = 1 yr restricted with zero defaults

 

Green P plate = 2 or 3 yr restricted with limited defaults

 

Maybe an advanced driving test - skid pan & chicane etc

 

Full licence

 

Restrictions being; zero alcohol & drugs, speed limits, licence type, number & age of passengers

 

I miss the P plate system from Australia, it gave me that "danger Will Robinson" heads up that I had an inexperienced driver near me.





iMac 27" (late 2013), Airport Time Capsule + Airport Express, iPhone7, iPad6, iPad Mini2

 

Panasonic Blu-ray PVR DMR-BWT835 + Panasonic Viera TH-L50E6Z, Chromecast Ultra, Yamaha AVR RX-V1085


 1 | 2
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic



Twitter and LinkedIn »



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Microsoft launches first Experience Center worldwide for Asia Pacific in Singapore
Posted 13-Nov-2019 13:08


Disney+ comes to LG Smart TVs
Posted 13-Nov-2019 12:55


Spark launches new wireless broadband "Unplan Metro"
Posted 11-Nov-2019 08:19


Malwarebytes overhauls flagship product with new UI, faster engine and lighter footprint
Posted 6-Nov-2019 11:48


CarbonClick launches into Digital Marketplaces
Posted 6-Nov-2019 11:42


Kordia offers Microsoft Azure Peering Service
Posted 6-Nov-2019 11:41


Spark 5G live on Auckland Harbour for Emirates Team New Zealand
Posted 4-Nov-2019 17:30


BNZ and Vodafone partner to boost NZ Tech for SME
Posted 31-Oct-2019 17:14


Nokia 7.2 available in New Zealand
Posted 31-Oct-2019 16:24


2talk launches Microsoft Teams Direct Routing product
Posted 29-Oct-2019 10:35


New Breast Cancer Foundation app puts power in Kiwi women's hands
Posted 25-Oct-2019 16:13


OPPO Reno2 Series lands, alongside hybrid noise-cancelling Wireless Headphones
Posted 24-Oct-2019 15:32


Waikato Data Scientists awarded $13 million from the Government
Posted 24-Oct-2019 15:27


D-Link launches Wave 2 Unified Access Points
Posted 24-Oct-2019 15:07


LG Electronics begins distributing the G8X THINQ
Posted 24-Oct-2019 10:58



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.


Support Geekzone »

Our community of supporters help make Geekzone possible. Click the button below to join them.

Support Geezone on PressPatron



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.