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#259989 5-Nov-2019 08:03
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/117153250/expiring-learner-and-restricted-licences-will-be-extended-by-two-years

 

 

 

Just Why ??? , If you have not already moved on with your learners or restricted that's your fault. Don't you get five years to have it sorted I mean come on. 





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  #2348370 5-Nov-2019 08:18
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Agreed. If it's financial reasons, then provide financial support of some description.

 

 


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  #2348371 5-Nov-2019 08:22
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If people are obeying their licence conditions, I don't see why they need to be forced to get a restricted/full. Took me 13 years to progress from a learner licence to full. I literally did the full driving test three months to the day after my restricted test (absolute minimum possible), because I finally had a need for it. Starting from nothing would have added six months to the process and been somewhat of an inconvenience.


 
 
 
 


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  #2348372 5-Nov-2019 08:26
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Dam mine was set to expire next year but i have only passed my full last month!! naturally this had to happen!

 

For me it was really a few things i wanted to make sure i had enough driving experience on my own before i went for my full, ive only had my own car for about 2 years so i wanted to feel comfortable. Cost was abit of a factor too as i had to take into account (which i ended up needing todo) if i had failed my full the first time and needing to re book but looking back at it now, the expense was worth it as i got onto it months before my restricted expired. 

 

Though i do think they need more testing officers available as i had my full re booked 2 times (once for initial test and one for retest)


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  #2348374 5-Nov-2019 08:28
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If the lost of licensing is a problem, the reality is you can't afford a car.


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  #2348380 5-Nov-2019 08:51
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Ok, a couple scenarios.

 

 

 

1 - On your restricted license you can carry family. So if you've got a vehicle, and have no need to hire a car or drive for work then why need your full license?

2 - ID purposes only, there's the 18+ car which is purely for confirmation of age only, it's not meant as an identification verification of any sorts.

 

3 - Fear of failure has put many off getting their restricted as the old restricted was easier than the full. Nowadays the restricted is significantly harder than the full. The failure rate is 43% nationwide (March 2018) which would put a lot of people off. It's also a lot more expensive at $134 a pop. If you fail it's $86 each time. For something that's not 100% a necessity that's a lot of cash for a lot of the population. 

 

4 - From the darker side of things, honestly your risk of being caught is quite low. In my time driving, I've only been checked 1 in 10 years? Driving illegally is easier than ever.


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  #2348381 5-Nov-2019 08:56
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3) If you can't meet the standard for a full drivers license after a couple of years of driving, you seriously need to look at why. The restricted license is supposed to be temporary whilst you gain the experience required to meet the full license requirements.

 

The cost of licensing is a rounding error on the total cost of car ownership.


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  #2348383 5-Nov-2019 08:58
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If your Learners or Restricted licence expires, what is required to renew it?

 

Is it much the same as for an expiring Full?  Pay money, get eyes checked, get new one?  Or do you have to resit the tests as well?

 

If it's only a renewal, I don't see the issue.  It expires, you renew it.  Just like you do with your passport.





 
 
 
 


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  #2348385 5-Nov-2019 09:03
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tehgerbil:

 

4 - From the darker side of things, honestly your risk of being caught is quite low. In my time driving, I've only been checked 1 in 10 years? Driving illegally is easier than ever.

 

 

That is something I have noticed in a lot of areas. The rules are strict but enforcement is minimal, making it relatively low-risk to ignore the rules, which encourages contempt for them at the same time. Laws should be realistic and they should be rigorously enforced. Otherwise there is no point to them. Lack of enforcement is usually a cost-cutting measure and it is self-defeating.

 

 

 

 





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  #2348386 5-Nov-2019 09:03
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geoffwnz:

 

If your Learners or Restricted licence expires, what is required to renew it?

 

Is it much the same as for an expiring Full?  Pay money, get eyes checked, get new one?  Or do you have to resit the tests as well?

 

If it's only a renewal, I don't see the issue.  It expires, you renew it.  Just like you do with your passport.

 

 

After the current 5 years, it expires and needs to be started again. I've learnt this going through L and R on my class 6.


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  #2348387 5-Nov-2019 09:03
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I've had my motorbike learners for 22 years, i ride a 150cc scooter and don't use it after hours. I have no need for a getting restricted or full. Have never needed or wanted a larger bike but government is going to make me spend money on something i'll never use. Will take the free 2 year extension though. 


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  #2348389 5-Nov-2019 09:05
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langi27:

 

I've had my motorbike learners for 22 years, i ride a 150cc scooter and don't use it after hours. I have no need for a getting restricted or full. Have never needed or wanted a larger bike but government is going to make me spend money on something i'll never use. Will take the free 2 year extension though. 

 

 

I possibly would have done the same, riding a 250cc bike. But with CBTA now, it makes it a hell of a lot easier, so went onto my 6R in August after getting my 6L in Feb.


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  #2348391 5-Nov-2019 09:07
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evilonenz:

 

langi27:

 

I've had my motorbike learners for 22 years, i ride a 150cc scooter and don't use it after hours. I have no need for a getting restricted or full. Have never needed or wanted a larger bike but government is going to make me spend money on something i'll never use. Will take the free 2 year extension though. 

 

 

I possibly would have done the same, riding a 250cc bike. But with CBTA now, it makes it a hell of a lot easier, so went onto my 6R in August after getting my 6L in Feb.

 

 

Thanks i'll check it out. I never knew about CBTA. 


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  #2348392 5-Nov-2019 09:11
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tehgerbil:

 

1 - On your restricted license you can carry family. So if you've got a vehicle, and have no need to hire a car or drive for work then why need your full license?

 

This was the situation for me. I was a bit late to get my restricted in the first place (about 20) and by then I had a partner with a full licence, and most of my friends had full licences. I had almost no pressure to graduate to a full (other than the embarrassment of showing a yellow card when buying booze etc) so let it slide until it was about to expire before I got off my arse and did the test.


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  #2348399 5-Nov-2019 09:48
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JaseNZ:

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/117153250/expiring-learner-and-restricted-licences-will-be-extended-by-two-years

 

 

 

Just Why ??? , If you have not already moved on with your learners or restricted that's your fault. Don't you get five years to have it sorted I mean come on. 

 



 

Had my learners for nearly 20 years. Drove everywhere, only got my full sorted out this year, one of my main reasons was cost, not having a car to sit it in and being lazy (i feel the last reason is more the reason). i have family who are on there learners and restricted for 10+ years. 





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  #2348409 5-Nov-2019 10:24
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I still think we should have a similar licencing system as in Australia.

 

Written driving test

 

Yellow L Plate = 1 yr very restricted with minimum driving 120 hours log book

 

Practical driving test (performed on country roads not just town/city)

 

Red P plate = 1 yr restricted with zero defaults

 

Green P plate = 2 or 3 yr restricted with limited defaults

 

Maybe an advanced driving test - skid pan & chicane etc

 

Full licence

 

Restrictions being; zero alcohol & drugs, speed limits, licence type, number & age of passengers

 

I miss the P plate system from Australia, it gave me that "danger Will Robinson" heads up that I had an inexperienced driver near me.





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