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  #2671166 10-Mar-2021 17:32
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Should be a fun series. Boat performance looks very similar.



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  #2671170 10-Mar-2021 17:39
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Well that was disappointing. It's all in the start and not making any mistakes if you get in front.

 

TNZ did a great job of making it back within 100m. Might have been a different story with another 1000m to chase them in.

 

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  #2671242 10-Mar-2021 18:29
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Chipping rust off, especially as teams don't have 2 boat development racing, challenger should be more race hardened.

 

Though there are also things like picking sails for conditions you expect, get that wrong and you carry handicap for whole race.

 

Close matching of boats makes starts more critical and we can expect some more risky moves as things develop.

 

Two bad TNZ tacks in second race.
INEOS suffered once it was confirmed they lost significant ground on tacks Prada were confident to draw them into more tacks whenever they could.

 

It would be interesting to see what insights each team gained on each other.

 

Other courses are more shifty, so always a wildcard with weather and course chosen.

 

The stadium style short courses not my favorite but if boats remain closely matched should keep nails trimmed.




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  #2671249 10-Mar-2021 18:32
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Handle9: Should be a fun series. Boat performance looks very similar.

 

I think so.  Close enough so that small mistakes matter (and an element of luck comes in to it too, despite the usual disclaimer by winners that you make your own luck - sometimes true, sometimes not).

 

More fun to watch than 7 trouncings in a row.


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  #2671253 10-Mar-2021 18:38
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Handle9: Should be a fun series. Boat performance looks very similar.


I think so.  Close enough so that small mistakes matter (and an element of luck comes in to it too, despite the usual disclaimer by winners that you make your own luck - sometimes true, sometimes not).


More fun to watch than 7 trouncings in a row.



I really enjoyed the second race. The result doesn't bother me too much, it'd be good if Team NZ won but probably better for yachting for Luna Rossa to win.

It's great seeing close finishes rather than a procession.

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  #2671281 10-Mar-2021 19:48
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I do find the technology analysis from Mozzy Sails interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/c/MozzySails/videos

 

 
I'll be checking in to see if they get an analysis of the race out overnight.

 

 


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  #2671298 10-Mar-2021 20:46
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i thought they were great races, i"m not a massive match racing guru, but watching it with people that are makes a lot more sense of what is going on





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  #2671383 11-Mar-2021 06:32
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Won the start, 30 second win, lost the start 7 second loss, thats not bad. Especially when losing the start is pretty much race over in these series so far. 


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  #2671459 11-Mar-2021 09:52
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I was really surprised at how close in boat speed these two teams are. 

 

Great spectacle for a non-sailing family such as ours. Haven't a clue what's going on, but boats go fast, do turnings and tackings and get up on the foils and rip along. 

 

 

 

1-1 is about right after the first day...good for the coverage, competition and economy, if it goes down to a decider on the last day, IMO. 

 

Would have been a shame to see it end in 7 races, which it now will not. 

 

 

 

 





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  #2671462 11-Mar-2021 09:54
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Seems like we have a decent match. 7 - 0 is bad for the spectators and bad for the sport. 

 

I still think the ETNZ boat is a far superior package but they will now know it isn't so much faster that they can just sail in the wake of Prada and still run them down. There were a couple of key moments where the boat seemed to be in a sweet spot (first leg race one, final leg race two) where it was sailing higher and outright faster than Prada. 

 

They'll also be far more polished come next hit-out and I feel Prada are perhaps into diminishing returns in terms of package and boat-handling. They'll get better, but not at the same rate ETNZ will. I don't think Prada's superior crewmanship will have the same impact it did against the Brits as the Kiwis improve. 

 

Frankly, from a casual fan's POV, I couldn't be happy with day one.


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  #2671473 11-Mar-2021 10:02
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There will I think be no passing, so its down to the starts. maybe the usual faster boat wins wont apply


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  #2671474 11-Mar-2021 10:05
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ezbee:

 

INEOS suffered once it was confirmed they lost significant ground on tacks Prada were confident to draw them into more tacks whenever they could.

 

It would be interesting to see what insights each team gained on each other.

 

 

The post match analysis showed this was the same for NZ, our tacks arent as polished.. Hopefully something that can be corrected, rather than a result of the design.

 


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  #2671523 11-Mar-2021 10:12
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tanivula:

 

The post match analysis showed this was the same for NZ, our tacks arent as polished.. Hopefully something that can be corrected, rather than a result of the design.

 

 

 

Is that race 2? It was the opposite in race 1, I assume as they are in dirty air that their speed is lowered.

 

IIRC Luna Rossa have better turns, so it suits them to tack tack tack


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This might be a controversial view but I think the remainder of the series is going to be quite boring. Not because one team will walk away with it, neither will. But I believe each race will be decided before the guns even goes off. What happens from there will be a foregone conclusion unless the lead boat has a major disaster.

 

 

 

If NZ win the start - they will sail their own race as they know they have a clear boat speed advantage in clear air

 

If Prada win the start - they will match race, knowing that if they can keep NZ in dirty air they are more maneuverable and will be able to cover any move NZ make to try to get clean air

 

 

 

As exciting as these boats are, it will not be interesting to follow if the outcome is decided in the 30s before the gun goes off.


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  #2671618 11-Mar-2021 11:59
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Agree. Maybe the faster boats wins won't count this time, its about the starts.


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