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#2892681 27-Mar-2022 12:00

Yeah. While I think Ferrari and RBR are very very close, if those 4 drivers drove 10 Q1 laps each, Id expect to see less missed apexes, and less non ideal bends in Ferrari

Lewis was a surprise. His and Russells had a very similar setup, so it wasnt that. Might be like Max, not being able to heat the tyre internals as well, less grip, needs two prep laps. LH is quite a way off, but if the grip was slightly comprmised you can easily leak lap time at this track.The side by side that Ant showed, saw LH have small but noticeable grip issues on 3 bends, and each caused lack of speed throughout the next straight, so that probably explains the issue.

Merc. Toto says its not a powertrain issue its a drag issue. Not sure about that as the other Mercedes cars are towards the bottom of the grid. Whatever innovation allowed them to br 2 seconds per lap faster in 2014, might have come undone with E10 fuel?

4 car battle tomorrow, the cars wont probably be the cause pf the result it will be the drivers, the odd mistake, the odd poor pitstop, who will be brave on a Dan Dare late brake pass

No "lets race for 2 laps, then cruise for 45" this season, thank goodness

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#2892699 27-Mar-2022 12:34

looks like one season too many for Sir Lewis. holidaying while everyone else was in the simulator, at the shop familiarising with the new car

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#2892709 27-Mar-2022 13:53

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looks like one season too many for Sir Lewis. holidaying while everyone else was in the simulator, at the shop familiarising with the new car

Nothing to do with it at all. K-Mag has done ok with zero of anything in the car or simulator

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#2893293 28-Mar-2022 22:35

F1 has just become almost exciting enough to put on in front of the wife.

Plenty of action and talking points today, and the drivers seem to also be enjoying the racing (Maybe not Sir Lewis) while also respecting each other which is great to see!

Monaco might not be a total bore this year.

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#2893324 29-Mar-2022 06:42

insane:

Monaco might not be a total bore this year.

not sure about that. we will see.

road narrow, cars ?wider + ?longer.

Latifi to crash.

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#2893331 29-Mar-2022 07:12

insane: F1 has just become almost exciting enough to put on in front of the wife.

Plenty of action and talking points today, and the drivers seem to also be enjoying the racing (Maybe not Sir Lewis) while also respecting each other which is great to see!

Monaco might not be a total bore this year.

Thats very noticeable. When we get the invariable A says he pushed me off B says he crashed into me, I doubt we will see how that has played out in the recent past. Both racing to win, not entltlement

And letting the teams sort out unfair passes was excellent. Man up, give it back before you get a 5 second penalty. That worked well, no anger no drama when Perez was told to give it back after just passing at the start of the safety car period

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#2893444 29-Mar-2022 11:37

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Man up, give it back before you get a 5 second penalty.

Full agree on this one. Introduces a respect element that's been lacking for a while.

I see the DRS concept is being looked at, as it's being used fairly unexpectedly with people being passed on purpose so they can take the place back under the next DRS zone. Wasn't quite the intention.

Come to think of it, DRS came about because of the lack of slipstreaming available under the last design generation. With cars now having ground effects for downforce, is DRS still needed?

It also gets to help on otherwise crap racetracks where passing without artificial assistance just isn't available.

Also thinking, do we have a graphic for electrical deployment/harvesting like I'm pretty sure we saw in the e series?

Is DRS required if they can chose to deploy their per lap energy reserve there etc.

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#2893450 29-Mar-2022 11:45

Jaxson:

Full agree on this one. Introduces a respect element that's been lacking for a while.

I see the DRS concept is being looked at, as it's being used fairly unexpectedly with people being passed on purpose so they can take the place back under the next DRS zone. Wasn't quite the intention.

Come to think of it, DRS came about because of the lack of slipstreaming available under the last design generation. With cars now having ground effects for downforce, is DRS still needed?

It also gets to help on otherwise crap racetracks where passing without artificial assistance just isn't available.

Also thinking, do we have a graphic for electrical deployment/harvesting like I'm pretty sure we saw in the e series?

Is DRS required if they can chose to deploy their per lap energy reserve there etc.

Martin Brundle made a good point, reduce DRS so it helps get you to a place where you can try attempt to pass. Dont leave it as a slam dunk

Id actually prefer to leave the battery as it is. If there was a graphic of usage, the team strategist would be in effect running the race. These new regs allow the driver to be the main variable, they can see the charge lights, so the driver can use his nouse to save up based on what the guy in front is doing with his

Having said all that. LeClerc's wasn't working, thats a bit sneaky or a bit lucky lol

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#2893463 29-Mar-2022 12:01

tdgeek:

Thats very noticeable. When we get the invariable A says he pushed me off B says he crashed into me, I doubt we will see how that has played out in the recent past. Both racing to win, not entltlement

And letting the teams sort out unfair passes was excellent. Man up, give it back before you get a 5 second penalty. That worked well, no anger no drama when Perez was told to give it back after just passing at the start of the safety car period

It also shows that they are more than capable of leaving each other space when they want to. So perhaps we need to rethink the argy-bargy era and how we view each driver in terms of how clean they actually were.

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#2893474 29-Mar-2022 12:50

I'm conscious it's only the start of the season though. Much easier to be all friendly when the stakes are still low and plenty of time to play for points.

The corner rules are the important ones to fix for me. Can I claim a corner as I'm ahead and shut the door - ie am I entitled to the racing line now I'm say half a car length ahead ahead, or are we playing that newer game of can't move across / must leave room at all times so the racing moves through all the corners until someone is fully 100% ahead of the other car and can then move across.

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#2893484 29-Mar-2022 13:16

Interesting to see how that goes. One thing that may mitigate some of that, is that there is now no grey area on how big the track is. Like every other sport, the white line is the white line. While thats not the point you're making, its somewhat related, there is now no free for all on track limits. Hopefully the Stewards and Race Directors would inform RBR for example, that pass was not legal, give it back. In a whose corner is it scenario they should step in soon as they can and the teams respect it and obey. I think that will happen as now there is no dominating team that owns the sport and is entitled, so they race hard but fair. Id even stretch it that if Mercedes get on on the act, and they will, so there are 6 pretty even cars, that fairness would stay there. Without wanting to be nit picky, Mercedes got themselves into an enviable position with their great car, where they acted as if they owned every win, and threw the toys if that didn't happen. That was the start of the argy bargy and tenseness. Reality check now, better play nice

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#2896804 4-Apr-2022 15:05

I've really enjoyed the races so far. Looks like basically everything they've changed has pretty much had the desired effect. Racing seems to be a lot closer, and it's great to have a bit of a shuffle up with the general performance. Do feel a bit sorry for McLaren.

I thought it would be a disaster leaving the teams to sort themselves out in regards to giving back places etc, but so far it's been great. That definitely won't be the case if it's close between teams toward the end of the season, but still positive changes.

Will be interesting to see if RB having the double DNF in that first race comes back to haunt them. It's shaping up to be another really good season.

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#2899174 9-Apr-2022 19:50

About to watch Quali, why is one DRS being removed? Safety issue? What safety issue? To cut back Ferrari?

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#2899178 9-Apr-2022 20:01

tdgeek:
About to watch Quali, why is one DRS being removed? Safety issue? What safety issue? To cut back Ferrari?

They haven't said yet. Russell said it made safety worse for them as the drs zone reduced the purpoising and there the head bouncing.

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#2899179 9-Apr-2022 20:03

McLaren have improved massively (at least in this qualifying outing) and super hoping this can continue into the race.

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