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#2841503 1-Jan-2022 18:18

Dochart:

Now let see if Nicholls can score a 50 or if he will be out soon.

Worker and Chapman doing well so far in the Ford Trophy against Wellington.

I reckon we should have persisted with Worker in the ODI opening with Guptill. Maybe with Ross retiring, Conway most likely going to be batting at 4 but the opening combination should be Guptill and Worker.

I agree re Worker, he just keeps performing but is ignored, its like hes Munro and has slept with the selectors wife or something ;-p

Nicholls, a big shout, hes not good enough to nick that one. What kind of shot is he trying to play when he plays those cramped shots, facing off, bat facing down the wicket, inviting the edge. Sigh. I genuinely have nothing personal against him, but I feel like he has the most invested in him.

Blundell, no, Im just looking at him looking to block every delivery like Welli and shows his opener mind set for Welli. Id rather have Cleaver or GP put the gloves back on. Its not good enough for #6.

We have a really good team dont get me wrong, but we have a couple of positions that could do better. Especially touring spin.

Edit: Nicholls teasing them just like last year, edges, inside edges, balls going through the gate lol. Lets hope the 30 odd turns into 130

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#2841507 1-Jan-2022 18:31

That is Blunders all over. For such a big man he is piss weak on offense. He is all defense, he is a weak version of John Wright. I honestly think we can do better replacing Watling surely, with how many class players we have that can wear the gloves. Sure, has to be a keeper, but I also dont want to see a keeper blocking when we are on top then playing dinky mis timed shots. I think he must be close to being reconsidered after averaging 5 in India.....

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#2841510 1-Jan-2022 18:36

TeaLeaf:
Dochart:

Now let see if Nicholls can score a 50 or if he will be out soon.

Worker and Chapman doing well so far in the Ford Trophy against Wellington.

I reckon we should have persisted with Worker in the ODI opening with Guptill. Maybe with Ross retiring, Conway most likely going to be batting at 4 but the opening combination should be Guptill and Worker.

I agree re Worker, he just keeps performing but is ignored, its like hes Munro and has slept with the selectors wife or something ;-p

Nicholls, a big shout, hes not good enough to nick that one. What kind of shot is he trying to play when he plays those cramped shots, facing off, bat facing down the wicket, inviting the edge. Sigh. I genuinely have nothing personal against him, but I feel like he has the most invested in him.

Blundell, no, Im just looking at him looking to block every delivery like Welli and shows his opener mind set for Welli. Id rather have Cleaver or GP put the gloves back on. Its not good enough for #6.

We have a really good team dont get me wrong, but we have a couple of positions that could do better. Especially touring spin.

Edit: Nicholls teasing them just like last year, edges, inside edges, balls going through the gate lol. Lets hope the 30 odd turns into 130

And the thing with Worker is that he averages around 42 in List A Cricket similar to Guptill. I hope the selectors are keeping an eye on him.

If they decide to not drop Blundell cause it’s too early Cleaver could be batting at No 5. He bats at No 3 in the Super Smash so I don’t see there being too much of a difference at 5. I can guarantee Cleaver would do so much better than Nicholls at both home and away.

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#2841521 1-Jan-2022 19:04

Not a great effort when every metric apart from opening the batting is in our favour. Now Katey says we will bat to 400. Maybe we will but when I saw Blundell and Nichols in that's the tail for me

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#2841528 1-Jan-2022 19:21

tdgeek:

Not a great effort when every metric apart from opening the batting is in our favour. Now Katey says we will bat to 400. Maybe we will but when I saw Blundell and Nichols in that's the tail for me

The shame is, aside from Latham we were actually going really well prior, Taylor looked like it could be his day but was out to a diving catch, it happens.

Still I think we should be looking for 400, if Nicholls is what they keep investing in him, he should go on to 100 from here (despite being very edgey so far) and Ravindra if they honestly think hes a prodigy he should score 50 at home, which doesnt leave much for the tail.

We shall see I guess. But it was looking like 500 minimum at one stage, Young if he had been sharper getting back into the crease may still be in now and Conway continues the amazing runs fest.

If our bowlers are good enough as they have been at home, it should still be a win, but perhaps day 5 if crystal balling now. Still 400 is a big total in NZ first innings, NZ amazing average on its own green wickets last few years is around 370, which should be plenty for our top 4 to aim at.

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#2841532 1-Jan-2022 19:32

tdgeek:
Not a great effort when every metric apart from opening the batting is in our favour. Now Katey says we will bat to 400. Maybe we will but when I saw Blundell and Nichols in that's the tail for me

Agree with this. Once the top 4 is out 5-11 is our tail. If Nicholls still performs poorly this series I think it is time to invest in someone else for No 5. I hope Cleaver does replace Nicholls after this series but if Blundell doesn’t do well in the next series at home should give Cleaver the gloves and add Glen Phillips in the lineup at either 5 or 6 depending on what position Cleaver prefers.

People are going to say Nicholls has a better first class average than Phillips but we need someone that’s consistent which I believe GP would be a better option than Nicholls.

Another option could be Chapman but I don’t think he’s consistent enough yet to be in the test side. He currently has a first class average around 42. I want to see more performances from Chapman in First Class before selecting him in the test side.

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#2841718 2-Jan-2022 08:04

Dochart:

Agree with this. Once the top 4 is out 5-11 is our tail. If Nicholls still performs poorly this series I think it is time to invest in someone else for No 5. I hope Cleaver does replace Nicholls after this series but if Blundell doesn’t do well in the next series at home should give Cleaver the gloves and add Glen Phillips in the lineup at either 5 or 6 depending on what position Cleaver prefers.

People are going to say Nicholls has a better first class average than Phillips but we need someone that’s consistent which I believe GP would be a better option than Nicholls.

Another option could be Chapman but I don’t think he’s consistent enough yet to be in the test side. He currently has a first class average around 42. I want to see more performances from Chapman in First Class before selecting him in the test side.

Thank goodness Conway got 122 and not a meritorious 62. And Will was edged but the referee failed to call it. This is Bangladesh, lowly ranked, from what I gather a rebuilding team, down a couple of players, away and in foreign conditions to when they are at home. This match should be similar to watching the Ashes. One side dominant, the other all at sea, but day 1 hasn't showed that.

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#2841719 2-Jan-2022 08:09

tdgeek:
Dochart:

Agree with this. Once the top 4 is out 5-11 is our tail. If Nicholls still performs poorly this series I think it is time to invest in someone else for No 5. I hope Cleaver does replace Nicholls after this series but if Blundell doesn’t do well in the next series at home should give Cleaver the gloves and add Glen Phillips in the lineup at either 5 or 6 depending on what position Cleaver prefers.

People are going to say Nicholls has a better first class average than Phillips but we need someone that’s consistent which I believe GP would be a better option than Nicholls.

Another option could be Chapman but I don’t think he’s consistent enough yet to be in the test side. He currently has a first class average around 42. I want to see more performances from Chapman in First Class before selecting him in the test side.

Thank goodness Conway got 122 and not a meritorious 62. And Will was edged but the referee failed to call it. This is Bangladesh, lowly ranked, from what I gather a rebuilding team, down a couple of players, away and in foreign conditions to when they are at home. This match should be similar to watching the Ashes. One side dominant, the other all at sea, but day 1 hasn't showed that.

Yea I thought NZ were going to have a batting collapse at the start where they only scored 1 run in the first 7 overs.

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#2841720 2-Jan-2022 08:12

TeaLeaf:

Still I think we should be looking for 400, if Nicholls is what they keep investing in him, he should go on to 100 from here

I dunno how many times I've heard these types of comments with NZ cricket. While we should not drop players willy nilly, we do the opposite. Hold onto them while they regularly fail. If any players such as Nichols keep failing they need to be told Player X is waiting we will alternate you both, and one will be dropped before long. Or, you've had the opportunity, player X will take over as he's good but a rookie, odds are it wont be any worse, and it may well be a find. Our young talent often can't get a shot as they have to wait till the older, downward trending players have been given up on, after lengthy periods of poor results. Oh but wait, there's more. The downward failing player gets a lovely 95 or 105, so he's locked in for another year...

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#2841721 2-Jan-2022 08:15

Dochart:

Yea I thought NZ were going to have a batting collapse at the start where they only scored 1 run in the first 7 overs.

I was ok with that. Its only the Bangers who will lose, but dont get complacent, see what they offer and the pitch. Even in T20 matches a slow start is often caught up.

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#2841822 2-Jan-2022 11:05

These are the innings Nicholls is in the team for and needs to deliver or start looking over his shoulder. Ravindra also needs to start showing just how good a batting talent he is with such an early investment in a player.

I think NZ will still score 400, Id consider it a major failure post #4 if they dont. Pitch looks bouncy, fast and the green is going, it should be a batsmans wicket now. Interesting to see if it swings early on and if there is enough grass left for the cutters to grip into.

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#2841824 2-Jan-2022 11:08

TeaLeaf:
These are the innings Nicholls is in the team for and needs to deliver or start looking over his shoulder. Ravindra also needs to start showing just how good a batting talent he is with such an early investment in a player.

I think NZ will still score 400, Id consider it a major failure post #4 if they dont. Pitch looks bouncy, fast and the green is going, it should be a batsmans wicket now. Interesting to see if it swings early on and if there is enough grass left for the cutters to grip into.

Can’t wait for the likes of Cleaver, GP and Chapman replacing Nicholls. If we don’t score at least 400 on this pitch I consider it a fail as well.

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#2841832 2-Jan-2022 11:33

Oh dear Rachin, what was that.... Nicholls looks better today. Up to Jamo today, he is capable. But I think 350 is more realistic now and 400 a bonus.

Speaking of Jamo, dont know what they have done but bay oval has transformed into th WACCA. He is going to be a handful on this, with one of his main wicket balls being the chest high bouncer off a good length, will see plenty of those from him.

I think the scoreboard shows what I mentioned yesterday with the blackcaps being a bit flaky in the middle order right now, #5 Nicholls being a bit sketchy #6 Blundell has to be in question now #7 Ravindra being an opener, young and inexperienced.

I think of those #6 Blundell is the one for me that needs resolution even if he is a great wicket keeper.

Edit: top shot Jamo. He reminds me of Guptill when he drives, long leavers and holds the golf swing. Bangers now being ultra defensive after a single boundary taking a slip out and putting them in the covers, not long after they just got Ravindra out in the slips. Im with Baz yesterday, very confused by Bangers tactics and fielding.

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#2841837 2-Jan-2022 12:15

No no no Jamo. You are better than that. Resist the urge until Nicholls has gone and then start looking for the 6s. Now Southee is our only real hope. 350 is a minimum. In saying that, given how green and bouncy its been day 1 and its swung both new balls, 350 is par. 500 would have made it a near certainty for NZ. Aside from Bounce and Swing it is now a batsmans paradise but I think NZ will still clean it up. Hoping my pre match Young for a century and Jamo for another 5fa comes true.

Oh Southee, lovely shot, but would be nice if he does support Nicholls who is looking to deliver the innings we need from him.

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#2841847 2-Jan-2022 12:47

Well done Bangers. Fair to say they had the only bowler friendly periods of the match, its a batters paradise now. Showing a bit of turn, might see Ravindra at some stage.

Nicholls streaky to start as he often is, then looked very solid the rest of the innings, out lap shot, would be dirty about that playing a white ball shot straight down the catchers throat.

Very dissapointing Blundell, Ravindra. Jamo is much better than that and Southee was playing for Nicholls and is much better just playing his shots, Wagner got a jem and not much could be done there with a tickle edge, Boult looked pretty good. Again, for me, Blundell needs to deliver more than playing like an opener only to get out for near zip, hes not handling #6 well. Ravindra is 0 from 5 innings so far, needs to start delivering to justify the promise he has shown all the way through age groups and opening for Welli. Fair to say Jamo had the oppurtunity for another 50 today, maybe more.

If we fix getting some runs from 6 and 7 and Jamo 8, and our tail wags, we should be very hard to beat with Williamson back.

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