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Topic # 196180 22-May-2016 08:25
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Someone explain to me why J Parker looked tired from the 5th round onwards of his 12 round bout ... ?

 

Either he doesn't have any fitness or boxing is incredibly energy sapping. ?


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Try boxing a punching bag for that time and you will get the picture, then add in blow to your head and torso.

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Fortunately this sport has no corruption or match fixing......


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tdgeek:

Fortunately this sport has no corruption or match fixing......



Sport???

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  Reply # 1557123 22-May-2016 09:02
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MikeB4: Try boxing a punching bag for that time and you will get the picture, then add in blow to your head and torso.

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Ah you mean like those guys that do that for 80 mins every weekend? They don't seem to get too tired? Still going at it after 78mins.


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MikeB4: Try boxing a punching bag for that time and you will get the picture, then add in blow to your head and torso.

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Ah you mean like those guys that do that for 80 mins every weekend? They don't seem to get too tired? Still going at it after 78mins.

 

 

Ask those same guys to share their experiences of fight training/boxing with you. They will tell you it is 1000% harder than what they do.




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  Reply # 1557134 22-May-2016 09:43
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I'm just asking to gauge whether Parker is in anywhere the same league as the best on the world or if he's just going to fade after five rounds when he meets those guys

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joker97: I'm just asking to gauge whether Parker is in anywhere the same league as the best on the world or if he's just going to fade after five rounds when he meets those guys

 

I watched Joshua vs Whyte last night. Joshua isn't that great. Good at everything not great at anything. Whyte is probably better but still learning

 

Tua vs Lennox could have been a real chance,but when your opponent was 8 foot taller and 3 foot longer reach, never a hope.




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  Reply # 1557153 22-May-2016 09:57
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Fortunately this sport has no corruption or match fixing......



I have to say i thought Takam didn't really try when Parker was wasted. Did he throw the match or was he also spent. He didn't look spent. Whereas Parker looked like he was struggling to breathe from round 5 onwards.

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Fortunately this sport has no corruption or match fixing......

 



I have to say i thought Takam didn't really try when Parker was wasted. Did he throw the match or was he also spent. He didn't look spent. Whereas Parker looked like he was struggling to breathe from round 5 onwards.

 

No Sky here so didn't see it, but gazed at the text commentary every couple of minutes. Looked close. Not easy to pick some rounds, but its boxing, Parker is being marketed, its in NZ, and watched live in the UK, nuff said. 


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It didn't appear to be "Parker puts opposition on notice" as Stuff says


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Someone explain to me why J Parker looked tired from the 5th round onwards of his 12 round bout ... ?

 

Either he doesn't have any fitness or boxing is incredibly energy sapping. ?

 

 

I use to think boxing was all grunt work and just slugging it out - no real skill compared to say a martial art (there is no colour belt system for boxers and why artifically restrict yourself to punches only???).

 

Then a friend took me along to a corporate boxing night and I saw all sorts of people get in the ring, a lot who you wouldn't think would get in there. They would step in and for three rounds fight it out, there's no running away, timeouts or breaks (aside from between rounds). I respected that.

 

Then same friend convinced me to do some boxing training. I'm a pretty fit guy - run every day (without exception) with a 21-30km long run in the weekends and have a solid muscular build probably more suitable for boxing than running. Boxing training is more designed for short intense bursts of a couple of minutes each rather than a long slow grind like distance running so it was a bit of a change but having an overall base fitness helped. It's also full body workout and they rate it as one of the hardest, most physically demanding sports (tennis being the other one I think)

 

I did about a year of training and learnt there is A LOT of technique behind it. It's not just about throwing punches, but stance, balance, reading your opponent and being able to take a punch as well.

 

I realised I didn't have the commitment to properly train for a corporate fight but did get in the ring for some 90 second sparring rounds. I still remember the dirty look I gave the trainer once when during the first round he called out "half way there". It was a "you're <insert expletive> kidding - we're only 45 seconds in??????" look. 

 

My friend has a naturally strong right punch - getting constantly pounded by that , even though you're blocking it, is draining. Throwing punches is draining. Shifting your feet, weight and balance is draining. Doing it for 12 rounds is no mean feat

 

 


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Someone explain to me why J Parker looked tired from the 5th round onwards of his 12 round bout ... ?

 

Either he doesn't have any fitness or boxing is incredibly energy sapping. ?

 

 

I use to think boxing was all grunt work and just slugging it out - no real skill compared to say a martial art (there is no colour belt system for boxers and why artifically restrict yourself to punches only???).

 

Then a friend took me along to a corporate boxing night and I saw all sorts of people get in the ring, a lot who you wouldn't think would get in there. They would step in and for three rounds fight it out, there's no running away, timeouts or breaks (aside from between rounds). I respected that.

 

Then same friend convinced me to do some boxing training. I'm a pretty fit guy - run every day (without exception) with a 21-30km long run in the weekends and have a solid muscular build probably more suitable for boxing than running. Boxing training is more designed for short intense bursts of a couple of minutes each rather than a long slow grind like distance running so it was a bit of a change but having an overall base fitness helped. It's also full body workout and they rate it as one of the hardest, most physically demanding sports (tennis being the other one I think)

 

I did about a year of training and learnt there is A LOT of technique behind it. It's not just about throwing punches, but stance, balance, reading your opponent and being able to take a punch as well.

 

I realised I didn't have the commitment to properly train for a corporate fight but did get in the ring for some 90 second sparring rounds. I still remember the dirty look I gave the trainer once when during the first round he called out "half way there". It was a "you're <insert expletive> kidding - we're only 45 seconds in??????" look. 

 

My friend has a naturally strong right punch - getting constantly pounded by that , even though you're blocking it, is draining. Throwing punches is draining. Shifting your feet, weight and balance is draining. Doing it for 12 rounds is no mean feat

 

 

 

 

Yes, it can be a skilful art for sure, but the industry is about hype, money, marketing in general


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Yes, it can be a skilful art for sure, but the industry is about hype, money, marketing in general

 

 

Don't forget politics and egos as well but how is that different to any professional sport these days?

 

 

 

 


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joker97: I'm just asking to gauge whether Parker is in anywhere the same league as the best on the world or if he's just going to fade after five rounds when he meets those guys

 

Parker is definitely in same league but has a lot of learning to go. This was an elimination fight with the winner getting a mandatory shot at the world title. That in itself says something about the league he's stepped up to. Takam is one of the best and most durable heavyweight boxers in the world at the moment. He's someone that a few other heavyweights have actively avoided fighting... The fact that Parker was able to gain and retain a points advantage, while weathering what Takam was able to dish out is a huge feat.

 

joker97: I have to say i thought Takam didn't really try when Parker was wasted. Did he throw the match or was he also spent. He didn't look spent. Whereas Parker looked like he was struggling to breathe from round 5 onwards.

 

Takam was tired but his conditioning allowed him to conceal it more effectively. Trying to introduce doubt into your opponents mind through looking as fresh as possible is part of the psychological aspect to boxing. I did some boxing when I was younger and can tell you, it's *extremely* tiring. Takam was definitely trying, he certainly didn't throw the match, but Parker was able to hang on and prove he's able to take some heavy punishment. There were a few points where I thought he wouldn't make it though.


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Just reading that someone did a live stream on FB to 20k people.

 

Be interesting to see what happens as its got to be pretty easy to track back to an individual for prosecution.

 

Never done PPV myself, always been happy to watch on news afterward, usually only 20 second fights anyway.


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