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#3420326 1-Oct-2025 15:53

Ge0rge:

I'm sorry, what makes her a deplorable? Accepting a job that has a salary set by the NZ Government Remuneration Authority?

How about letting Dr Anna Breman prove her worth as Governor instead of labelling her a deplorable person when she hasn't even started the job.

SMH.

I agree with this.

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#3420791 2-Oct-2025 17:56

Texas Republican Ted Cruz comes to defense of people on Epstein's list :)

"We should have bipartisan agreement. How about we all come together and say, 'Let's stop murders.' How about we all come together and say, 'Let's stop rape.' How about we all come together and say, 'Let's stop attacking pedophiles.'

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#3421698 5-Oct-2025 10:11

Pete Hegseth’s Tattoos and the Crusading Obsession of the Far Right

Hegseth also has the words “Deus Vult,” Latin for “God will it,” on his bicep.

Hegseth shows off the “Join, Or Die” snake cartoon.

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#3421715 5-Oct-2025 11:11

Oligarchy’s law (Michels’ iron law of oligarchy):

those in power design structures to protect their own position.
All complex organizations, regardless of how democratic they are when started, eventually develop into oligarchies.

See also rulemaker’s exemption, self-exemption, double standard, hypocrisy.

Regulatory hypocrisy: leader's regulation applies down the chain, but not to self or upward.

Performative authority: enforcing a standard to project control or legitimacy. Always excluded their own compliance.

Also see "there's always one" / self-important prick / Napoleon complex.

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#3421748 5-Oct-2025 12:58

A recurring theme in political commentary and satire: Republican sex scandals seem to involve particularly egregious or hypocritical behavior, especially when juxtaposed with the party’s emphasis on “family values” and moral conservatism.

Examples:

Dennis Hastert, former Speaker of the House, who admitted to sexually abusing teenage boys decades earlier and was later convicted for financial crimes related to hush money.

Roy Moore, former Alabama Senate candidate, accused of pursuing relationships with underage girls while serving as a district attorney.

Matt Gaetz, under investigation for alleged sex trafficking involving a minor (he denies wrongdoing).

Christian Ziegler, Florida GOP chair, and his wife Bridget Ziegler, co-founder of Moms for Liberty, were involved in a scandal involving a consensual threesome that turned into a criminal investigation.

Warning. Even for the jaded, this one is pretty shocking, NSFW

Tumblr linked to Republican John Reid engaged with Nazi porn accounts: American Journal News

A pornographic blog linked to Virginia lieutenant governor candidate John Reid shared content from accounts that fetishized Nazism and sexual violence.
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Other news outlets have reported on the existence of the blog, but not its racist content or disturbing imagery.
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Reid said the blog is part of a coordinated effort to smear him for being a gay Republican, even though its posts date back to 2014—before he was a political candidate and was mostly known as a local news broadcaster and media consultant.
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In 2015, JRDeux shared an image of a male college student in underwear from the user obedient*******dc. That account’s bio described the user as a “subservient n***er who knows his place in society” and included a solicitation for “superior white men” near Washington, D.C., to contact them via email.
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#3422974 8-Oct-2025 11:56

This is an unprecedented protest:

The Washington Post - Opinion - Six surgeons general: It’s our duty to warn the nation about RFK Jr.

07 Oct 2025

As former U.S. surgeons general appointed by every Republican and Democratic president since George H.W. Bush, we have collectively spent decades in service as the Nation’s Doctor.

We took two sacred oaths in our lifetimes: first, as physicians who swore to care for our patients and, second, as public servants who committed to protecting the health of all Americans.

Today, in keeping with those oaths, we are compelled to speak with one voice to say that the actions of Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. are endangering the health of the nation.

Never before have we issued a joint public warning like this.

But the profound, immediate and unprecedented threat that Kennedy’s policies and positions pose to the nation’s health cannot be ignored. ...

He has rejected science, misled the public and compromised the health of Americans.

The writers are all former U.S. surgeons general: Jerome Adams, Richard Carmona, Joycelyn Elders, Vivek Murthy, Antonia Novello & David Satcher

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#3425187 15-Oct-2025 18:03

Some pretty deplorable young Republicans (surprise, surprise) here: https://archive.ph/aOBKg

In another exchange, Dwyer, the Kansas’ chair, informs Giunta that one of Michigan’s Young Republicans promised him the group “will vote for the most right wing person” to lead the national organization.

“Great. I love Hitler,” Giunta responded.

Dwyer reacted with a smiley face.

Despite what the White House might say, I think the orange buffoon's rhetoric and bloviating has a whole lot to do with how they view the world.

As I said to the other person in the Trump thread, a president's words do matter.

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#3425192 15-Oct-2025 18:55

Fucking nazis.

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#3425202 15-Oct-2025 20:49

The online responses - at least, the ones I've seen on Instagram - referring to those losers are absolutely brutal (think of comments along the lines of "what a surprise, they look like that" and "now I know what an incel looks like").

I guess Trump really does bring out the worst in people 😟

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#3425294 16-Oct-2025 10:01

kingdragonfly: Someone sent me video

The Governor of the Reserve Bank of New Zealand (RBNZ) is one of the highest-paid public officials in the country, and the salary often exceeds what many national presidents or prime ministers earn.

She justifies it by saying it's a central bank is like running a large financial institution.

Well in this case, quit, and let someone who wants to be a public official have the position.

The RBNZ Governor gets paid more than the PRESIDENT of the USA, at $800/year

I'd like to see a similar video, showing the salaries of the same jobs across the world - i.e. the equivalent of the Central Bank Governor in each of the countries mentioned in that video, or any others where the salaries are high.
Also - I'd like to see the total net worth and the total remuneration of the leaders mentioned, based on all of their income derived as a direct result of them being the country's leader. Include the Grifter-In-Chief of the USA, with all of his income derived from the fact that he is El Presidente...i.e. all the meme coins that are created on the basis that he's president, etc.

Handsome Dan Has Spoken.
Handsome Dan needs to stop adding three dots to every sentence...

Handsome Dan does not currently have a side hustle as the mascot for Yale

*Gladly accepting donations...

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#3425344 16-Oct-2025 12:00

freitasm:

F-----g nazis.

More in The Bulwark this morning: https://www.thebulwark.com/i/176231007/the-kids-arent-all-right

The Young Republicans are, of course, in full damage control mode, trying to write off the chat’s participants as a few bad apples. “The Young Republican National Federation condemns all forms of racism, antisemitism, and hate,” YRNF chair Hayden Padgett—who ultimately triumphed over Giunta—said in a statement. Such behavior, he said, “has no place within our organization or the broader conservative movement.”

But reading over the chats, what I was struck by is just how self-evidently wrong Padgett’s claim was. The views expressed were particularly vile. But they weren’t out of step with the broad strokes of public MAGA discourse. Instead, they seemed to exist where a lot of young Republicans are today: at the nexus of the coarse and cruel public discourse modeled by Donald Trump and his movement and the maximum-shock style common among the young and Extremely Online.

This is what I was referring to yesterday - a lot of the blame for this can be laid squarely at Trump's door.

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#3425472 16-Oct-2025 15:50

freitasm:

F-----g nazis.

James tries a bit of deflection and whataboutism: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/15/jd-vance-racist-messages-young-republicans-chat-leak

Vance, however, scolded Democrats and the media for paying too much attention to “what a bunch of young people, a bunch of kids, say in a group chat, however offensive”.

He suggested that the racist texts from Republicans were a distraction from offensive texts sent by a Democratic candidate for attorney general of Virginia, Jay Jones, who joked that he would prefer to kill a Republican colleague than Hitler or Pol Pot.

I still remember the days when rather than being defended, this sort of nonsense would have been condemned by everyone in the party, including the Vice President. I guess those days (for the Republican Party, anyway) are behind us for now 🤷‍♂️

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#3425683 17-Oct-2025 08:54

For New Zealand citizen Peter Theil. Prime Minister of the time was John Key.

In his citizenship application, Thiel made a number of commitments to justify waiving the usual requirements under an “exceptional circumstances” clause.

He would act as a “great ambassador” or promoter of New Zealand internationally
help New Zealand firms connect with global markets.
Although one of the usual criteria for citizenship is an intention to reside in New Zealand, Thiel explicitly stated in his application that he did not intend to live permanently in New Zealand.

Some critics say he hasn’t really publicly leveraged the citizenship to represent New Zealand in visible ways. His citizenship wasn’t broadly known for years. The promised “landing pad” for NZ entrepreneurs in the U.S. either did not materialize or at least have not been highly public.

He had spent only 12 days in New Zealand (over multiple visits) during the qualification period prior to being granted citizenship. The standard requirement is to have been physically present typically 1,350 days over five years.

This month Thiel hosted four lectures in San Francisco philosophizing about who the antichrist could be and warning that Armageddon is coming.

Thiel believes the harbinger of the end of the world could already be in our midst and that things such as international agencies, environmentalism and guardrails on technology could quicken its rise

Thiel said, kicking off his first lecture "A basic definition of the antichrist: some people think of it as a type of very bad person. Sometimes it’s used more generally as a spiritual descriptor of the forces of evil. What I will focus on is the most common and most dramatic interpretation of antichrist: an evil king or tyrant or anti-messiah who appears in the end times."

He has used "peace and safety” (1 Thessalonians 5:3) as a slogan:

“The slogan of the Antichrist is peace and safety, which is nothing wrong with peace and safety. But you have to sort of imagine that it resonates very differently … where the stakes are so absolute … where the alternative to peace and safety is Armageddon.”

also

“You’re also supposed to worry about the Antichrist. Maybe you’re supposed to worry more about the Antichrist because the Antichrist comes first.”

and

“If the Antichrist were to come to power, it would be by talking about Armageddon all the time.”

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#3425974 18-Oct-2025 13:08

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The NY Times - George Santos Pleads Guilty to Wire Fraud and Identity Theft

breaking

George Santos, the disgraced former Republican congressman from New York whose penchant for lying led to one of the oddest sideshows in modern U.S. politics, pleaded guilty on Monday to wire fraud and aggravated identity theft.

While Mr. Santos’s plea will allow him to avoid a trial on a total of nearly two dozen charges - including money laundering and stealing public funds - it all but ensures he will face at least two years in prison and as long as two decades.

The trial was set to begin next month. ...

Santos also agreed to pay $373,749.97 in restitution and forfeit another $205,002.97 before his sentencing.

And off to prison he goes!

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/25/politics/george-santos-sentencing-fraud/index.html

Santos was sobbing in the courtroom on Friday and said he “betrayed the confidence entrusted in me” while giving a brief statement to the judge.
“I cannot rewrite the past, but I can control the road ahead, I have tried my best,” Santos said.

[US District Judge Joanna] Seybert pointed out Santos was making money from social media appearances, a documentary and podcasts, and she found it “incredible” that he didn’t open up a savings account to pay back restitution and that he kept up with the lies and continued to blame the government.

Grifters gonna/gotta grift...

Well, it seems to be "who you know" in the US these days. Either that, or kiss the orange buffoon's ring and you'll be rewarded 😠

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/576300/trump-commutes-prison-sentence-of-former-lawmaker-george-santos-orders-him-released

He's having his sentence commuted and being freed. As usual, Trump doesn't care about holding anyone to account if they happened to say nice things about him, the law only applies to everyone else 🙄

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#3426007 18-Oct-2025 18:35

Reuters - Trump commutes prison sentence of former lawmaker George Santos, orders him released

Oct 17 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump on Friday commuted the more than seven-year prison sentence of former U.S. Representative George Santos for fraud and identity theft, ordering his immediate release.

Santos, who was expelled from Congress after a brief, scandal-plagued tenure, had pleaded guilty to inflating fundraising figures and falsifying donor names to secure Republican Party financial support during the 2022 election cycle. He was elected that year to represent a portion of New York City and its eastern suburbs as a Republican.

During his campaign, Santos falsely claimed he attended New York University, worked at Goldman Sachs and Citigroup, and that his grandparents had fled the Nazis during World War II.

He was sentenced to 87 months in federal prison in April of this year and began his sentence in July.

This says more about Trump's perverted value judgements than it does about Santos. 🙄

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