Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#2529714 27-Jul-2020 17:05

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Despite being assigned to one of the safest countries in the world, Jeffrey Ross Gunter has been "paranoid" about his security since coming to Reykjavik last year, according to a dozen diplomats, government officials, former officials and individuals familiar with the situation.

That's near-universal. I've got a great photo somewhere, taken from the grounds of the Royal Palace in Oslo, which is open to the public and you can walk right up to the windows, of the US Embassy just across the road with the Americans cowering behind the walls of their maximum-security prison. On the other side of the road, there's a low fence to prevent the public from damaging the king's tulips as they stroll through the open gardens. It's a great illustration of the different relationship between US and non-US leaders and the public.

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#2529716 27-Jul-2020 17:07

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After Trump:

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#2529721 27-Jul-2020 17:15

Now to a more serious topic, who still thinks Trump and his turds aren't fascists?

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#2529722 27-Jul-2020 17:16

neb: It's a great illustration of the different relationship between US and non-US leaders and the public.

Some quotes from the Royal House web page for the park:

Feel free to walk, sit or lie on the grass.

Ball-playing and other games must not damage the plants or trees.

If you are using the trees for slacklining, please anchor the line carefully.

You are also welcome to walk your dog in the Palace Park, but please show consideration. Dogs must be [...] kept away from the flower beds.

Cycling is permitted in the Palace Park, but there is a speed limit of 5 km per hour, or roughly walking pace. If you are in a hurry, we ask you to please cycle outside the park.

The message from the US prison across the road was along the lines of "please stay behind the jagged steel fence, armed guards will shoot to kill".

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#2529751 27-Jul-2020 18:11

Looks familiar?

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#2529830 27-Jul-2020 21:20

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12351409

I haven't seen Joe Biden speaking much, but is he really as bad as Trump makes him out to be?

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#2529837 27-Jul-2020 21:31

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really as bad as Trump makes him out to be?

For any subject whatsoever, the answer to that is "no".

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#2529845 27-Jul-2020 22:25

Biden seems to lose the plot sometimes, but he generally makes sense and can sometimes be very focused. The difference with Trump is he becomes hesitant and uncertain when he loses his train of thought, while Trump just steamrollers on spouting incoherent nonsense. If you ignore what they are actually saying, or are deaf, Trump may seem to be more fluent because he just keeps spitting out words even if they don't form complete sentences. Biden wanders, Trump is incoherent.

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#2529890 28-Jul-2020 07:43

Believe it or not, a couple of Republicans are literally defending US slavery.

President Donald Trump sent a tweet denouncing the 1619 project as a "Racism Witch Hunt" by "the Failing New York Times".

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich criticized the project as "brainwashing" "propaganda", in a tweet, called it "a lie" in a subsequent media appearance, and later wrote an Op-ed characterising it as "left-wing propaganda masquerading as "the truth"".

Senator Ted Cruz also equated it with propaganda.

Arkansas Democrat Gazette: Bill by Sen. Tom Cotton targets curriculum on slavery

A New York Times-based school curriculum emphasizing American slavery instead of American independence has been targeted by U.S. Sen. Tom Cotton.

The Little Rock Republican introduced legislation Thursday that would prevent the use of federal tax dollars to spread the historical reinterpretation in the nation’s classrooms.

While labeling 1776 as the nation’s “official birth date,” the 1619 Project seeks “to reframe American history by considering what it would mean to regard 1619 as our nation’s birth year.”

Timed to coincide with the 400th anniversary of the arrival of African slaves in the Virginia colony, the 1619 Project was launched last year by the Times.

Arguing that it is “finally time to tell our story truthfully,” the project “aims to reframe the country’s history by placing the consequences of slavery and the contributions of black Americans at the very center of our national narrative.”

The project’s mastermind, Nikole Hannah-Jones, was awarded this year’s Pulitzer Prize for commentary.

A curriculum based on the project, which includes essays, poems, photographs and short fiction by a variety of contributors, was also created.

The result of a partnership between the Times and the nonprofit Pulitzer Center, the curriculum is intended for use in primary and secondary schools nationwide.

COTTON’S PROPOSED LAW

If the Saving American History Act of 2020 becomes law, however, school districts using the 1619 Project curriculum could face financial consequences.
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“The entire premise of the New York Times’ factually, historically flawed 1619 Project … is that America is at root, a systemically racist country to the core and irredeemable. I reject that root and branch,” Cotton said Friday. “America is a great and noble country founded on the proposition that all mankind is created equal. We have always struggled to live up to that promise, but no country has ever done more to achieve it.”
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“We have to study the history of slavery and its role and impact on the development of our country because otherwise we can’t understand our country. As the Founding Fathers said, it was the necessary evil upon which the union was built, but the union was built in a way, as Lincoln said, to put slavery on the course to its ultimate extinction,” he said.

Instead of portraying America as “an irredeemably corrupt, rotten and racist country,” the nation should be viewed “as an imperfect and flawed land, but the greatest and noblest country in the history of mankind,” Cotton said.
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#2529899 28-Jul-2020 08:30

So slavery was just an unfortunate anomaly in an otherwise perfect country. Native Americans will be very relieved to hear that!

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#2529963 28-Jul-2020 10:31

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quickymart:

really as bad as Trump makes him out to be?

For any subject whatsoever, the answer to that is "no".

that's ridiculous. Both candidates are pathetic useless old white rich corrupt rapists.

intelligence is done a disservice, when we shrug our shoulders and forget about Bidens 50 year political history, and what he did and didn't do as 8 years as VP.

we are forced to choose the lesser of two evils, to accept a new (old) President whose neoliberal globalist warmongering ways, literally delivered the electorate to Trump

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#2529969 28-Jul-2020 10:35

Rikkitic:

Biden seems to lose the plot sometimes, but he generally makes sense and can sometimes be very focused. The difference with Trump is he becomes hesitant and uncertain when he loses his train of thought, while Trump just steamrollers on spouting incoherent nonsense. If you ignore what they are actually saying, or are deaf, Trump may seem to be more fluent because he just keeps spitting out words even if they don't form complete sentences. Biden wanders, Trump is incoherent.

the question voters aught to be asking of their 2 respective parties is how do we keep a straight face and believe that 2 70 year old men are capable of performing the hardest, most stressful, most important job in the world.

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#2529970 28-Jul-2020 10:42

Rikkitic:

So slavery was just an unfortunate anomaly in an otherwise perfect country. Native Americans will be very relieved to hear that!

The Founders did seem to believe that slavery was a means-to-an-end or a "necessary evil"

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#2529996 28-Jul-2020 11:01

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we are forced to choose the lesser of two evils, to accept a new (old) President whose neoliberal globalist warmongering ways, literally delivered the electorate to Trump

Biden was selected by a rigorous process open to a multiplicity of candidates. If you don't like that, it is your problem.

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#2530001 28-Jul-2020 11:11

The US election is once again a choice between a rock and a hard place

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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