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  #2530002 28-Jul-2020 11:12
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nathan:

 

the question voters aught to be asking of their 2 respective parties is how do we keep a straight face and believe that 2 70 year old men are capable of performing the hardest, most stressful, most important job in the world.

 

 

These are the probable candidates, selected by the system we have, which has worked pretty well for more than two centuries. The question you seem to be asking is whether the established, legal, accepted way of choosing candidates should be abruptly abandoned if we don't like the result. That is what makes it hard for me to keep a straight face. 

 

 




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  #2530004 28-Jul-2020 11:16
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nathan:

 

The Founders did seem to believe that slavery was a means-to-an-end or a "necessary evil"

 

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We are not talking about the Founders. We are talking about a racist idiot who thinks slavery was a good idea.

 

 




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  #2530010 28-Jul-2020 11:25
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Rikkitic:

 

nathan:

 

The Founders did seem to believe that slavery was a means-to-an-end or a "necessary evil"

 

wh

 

We are not talking about the Founders. We are talking about a racist idiot who thinks slavery was a good idea.

 

 

 

 

Maybe he was.  It goes a long way to explaining why systematic racism is still alive and well in the US, its built on it.

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  #2530017 28-Jul-2020 11:44
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CNN - Trump postpones first pitch at New York Yankees game

 

26 July 2020

 


President Donald Trump said Sunday he's postponed his plan to throw out the opening pitch at a New York Yankees game next month, extending his run as the only modern president to not take part in the longstanding tradition.

 

The President cited his "strong focus" on the coronavirus pandemic and the economy as reasons for the delay ...

 



 




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  #2530024 28-Jul-2020 12:08
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Rikkitic:

 

nathan:

 

the question voters aught to be asking of their 2 respective parties is how do we keep a straight face and believe that 2 70 year old men are capable of performing the hardest, most stressful, most important job in the world.

 

 

These are the probable candidates, selected by the system we have, which has worked pretty well for more than two centuries. The question you seem to be asking is whether the established, legal, accepted way of choosing candidates should be abruptly abandoned if we don't like the result. That is what makes it hard for me to keep a straight face. 

 

 

 

 

sure, they're "presumptive" nominees, the reality that is BS - these are the 2 best people in America that the Establishment will allow to be the President.

 

The system doesn't work pretty well at all.  You have to be a rich white corrupt old man to really have a chance.

 

Less than half of eligible voters routinely show up to the polls, and the basics of the process used to choose our Dear Leader is shrouded in mystery for many Americans

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  #2530025 28-Jul-2020 12:14
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nathan:

 

The system doesn't work pretty well at all.  You have to be a rich white corrupt old man to really have a chance.

 

 

Yeah, that Obama was really rich, white, corrupt and old.

 

 




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  #2530026 28-Jul-2020 12:24
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Rikkitic:

Biden was selected by a rigorous process open to a multiplicity of candidates.

 

 

So was Adolf Hitler.

 

 

I don't know about Biden, but Hillary was selected by a process that ensured that only Hillary would be selected. At the time it was going on friends of mine, lifelong Democrat voters, would send me updates every now and then on how the selection process was rigged to ensure that only Hillary could get in. It's been five+ years and I wasn't that familiar with how the US system works or, to be honest, that interested in it, but one of the things they mentioned was that if a particular state endorsed(?) someone other than Hillary it'd be changed to say they backed Hillary instead. "You can select anyone you want as long as her surname's Clinton".

 

 

The US political system is fundamentally broken, which is why they're yet again faced with a choice between one awful candidate and another awful candidate.

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  #2530032 28-Jul-2020 12:36
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The US just hit 150,000 dead.

 

 

Predictions at the start of this month were that they were going to hit 100,000 by the start of August.

 

 

#Winning.

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  #2530036 28-Jul-2020 12:43
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neb:

 

So was Adolf Hitler. I don't know about Biden, but Hillary was selected by a process that ensured that only Hillary would be selected. At the time it was going on friends of mine, lifelong Democrat voters, would send me updates every now and then on how the selection process was rigged to ensure that only Hillary could get in. It's been five+ years and I wasn't that familiar with how the US system works or, to be honest, that interested in it, but one of the things they mentioned was that if a particular state endorsed(?) someone other than Hillary it'd be changed to say they backed Hillary instead. "You can select anyone you want as long as her surname's Clinton". The US political system is fundamentally broken, which is why they're yet again faced with a choice between one awful candidate and another awful candidate.

 

 

I don't disagree with you in principle. The system is broken there. It was also rigged to ensure that Hillary got the nomination, which probably should have gone to Sanders. But after Trump won, the Democratic Party was in such a state of shock that it bent over backwards to ensure the same thing didn't happen again this time. That is why there were so many candidates and such a prolonged selection process. It was probably the fairest Democratic candidate selection ever. And in the end, it turned up Biden. The reason was not because he was such a great candidate, but because the world will end if Trump gets in again and Biden was ultimately seen as the one with the best chance of defeating him, which the polls so far bear out.

 

Biden has plenty of baggage and is not an inspiring candidate, but comparing him to Trump is just trolling the election process in an attempt to sow confusion and distrust. Whatever his shortcomings, Biden is infinitely preferable to Trump, who lacks any grace, style, intelligence, and common sense. In any case, voters will not be looking at Biden. They will be looking at the vice-presidential candidate.

 

 




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  #2530038 28-Jul-2020 12:48
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Rikkitic:

Biden has plenty of baggage and is not an inspiring candidate, but comparing him to Trump is just trolling the election process in an attempt to sow confusion and distrust.

 

 

Oh, I wasn't comparing him to Trump, it's hard to think of a non-African/South American politician who could be that bad. But that again shows how broken the US process is, someone as otherwise unelectable as Biden is being pushed because he's seen as the only viable alternative to Trump.

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  #2530042 28-Jul-2020 13:00
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Rikkitic:

 

nathan:

 

The system doesn't work pretty well at all.  You have to be a rich white corrupt old man to really have a chance.

 

 

Yeah, that Obama was really rich, white, corrupt and old.

 

 

 

 

1/45, so I'm 98% correct

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  #2530043 28-Jul-2020 13:00
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Today's News of the Bizarre:

 

 

Local TV stations across the country set to air discredited 'Plandemic' researcher's conspiracy theory about Fauci.

 

 

Local television stations owned by the Sinclair Broadcast Group are set to air a conspiracy theory over the weekend that suggests Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top expert on infectious diseases, was responsible for the creation of the coronavirus.

 

 

It's been temporarily pulled after an outcry on social media, but not doubt it'll be back in repackaged form at a later date for Trump fans to digest.

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  #2530049 28-Jul-2020 13:13
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nathan:

 

1/45, so I'm 98% correct

 

 

Quora:

 

Which US presidents were not born into wealthy families?   Allen Jones, Lifelong student of American history.

 

Some I don’t know their parents or early circumstances and many married into some wealth or upper middle class status, but ones who would clearly qualify as coming from modest or quite poor circumstances:

 

Andrew Jackson

 

probably several in between

 

Abraham Lincoln

 

Andrew Johnson

 

Ulysses Grant

 

James Garfield

 

Grover Cleveland

 

Woodrow Wilson, preacher’s son

 

Calvin Coolidge

 

Herbert Hoover (penniless young orphan, probably the poorest beginning)

 

Harry Truman

 

Dwight Eisenhower

 

Lyndon Johnson

 

Richard Nixon

 

Gerald Ford, orphan

 

Jimmy Carter

 

Ronald Reagan

 

Bill Clinton

 

Barack Obama

 

 

 

I can go on if you like.

 

 

 

 




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  #2530056 28-Jul-2020 13:18
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CNN - Trump postpones first pitch at New York Yankees game

 

26 July 2020

 


President Donald Trump said Sunday he's postponed his plan to throw out the opening pitch at a New York Yankees game next month, extending his run as the only modern president to not take part in the long standing tradition.

 

The President cited his "strong focus" on the coronavirus pandemic and the economy as reasons for the delay ...

 

Well he has had problems with his hand and or arm in the past. I mean he should be using a Tommee Tippee cup so don't expect him to throw balls and play catch with the other children in the White House or anywhere else. Mind you he can throw MAGA baseball caps.

 

 

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  #2530068 28-Jul-2020 13:27
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nathan:

 

1/45, so I'm 98% correct

 

 

Some non-white presidents

 

In most cases probable, though not proven. That's around 25 so far, which makes it less than 50%. I'm sure I can find more.

 

 

 

 




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