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  #2530075 28-Jul-2020 13:33
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Rikkitic:

 

nathan:

 

we are forced to choose the lesser of two evils, to accept a new (old) President whose neoliberal globalist warmongering ways, literally delivered the electorate to Trump

 

 

Biden was selected by a rigorous process open to a multiplicity of candidates. If you don't like that, it is your problem.

 

 

 

 

You didn't watch the same Dem Primary that I did, if you think it was a rigorous process.

 

The process is a hypocritical sham controlled by the Dem Establishment, they, CNN and particularly MSNBC, along with the other candidates who strategically dropped out, put their neoliberal corporatist man Joe in.  

 

Its not only my problem, its the majority of American voters problem, they're not going to get the Medicare-for-all, a reduction in the Pentagon budget, and the end to perpetual, endless, forever wars, that they've demanded.


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  #2530076 28-Jul-2020 13:33
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FineWine:

 

"President Donald Trump said Sunday he's postponed his plan to throw out the opening pitch at a New York Yankees game next month, extending his run as the only modern president to not take part in the long standing tradition.

 

The President cited his "strong focus" on the coronavirus pandemic and the economy as reasons for the delay ..."

 

Well he has had problems with his hand and or arm in the past. I mean he should be using a Tommee Tippee cup so don't except him to throw balls and play catch with the other children in the White House.

 

I heard a Yankees manager say he wasn't invited. That might have something to do with it.

 

 





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  #2530081 28-Jul-2020 13:41
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neb: The US just hit 150,000 dead. Predictions at the start of this month were that they were going to hit 100,000 by the start of August. #Winning.

 

 

 

Not that it's really any less appalling, but the US hit 100K before the end of May.





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  #2530083 28-Jul-2020 13:43
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nathan:

 

1/45, so I'm 98% correct

 

It is easier to prove corruption than lack of it, but honest Abe and Truman are generally considered pretty clean. That puts you far below 98%. Now what was that other one ... ?

 

 





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  #2530086 28-Jul-2020 13:48
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Rikkitic:

 

nathan:

 

1/45, so I'm 98% correct

 

It is easier to prove corruption than lack of it, but honest Abe and Truman are generally considered pretty clean. That puts you far below 98%. Now what was that other one ... ?

 

 

 

 

you're missing the wider point


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  #2530087 28-Jul-2020 13:53
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SaltyNZ:

Not that it's really any less appalling, but the US hit 100K before the end of May.

 

 

Ah, yeah, sorry, the claims were made further back than I remembered (gawd, it seems like this thing's been going on forever), and were from the White House so obviously pulled out of thin air, or more probably somewhat less well-lit places.

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  #2530096 28-Jul-2020 14:15
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nathan:

 

you're missing the wider point

 

 

The wider point is that you are full of BS, but let me finish demolishing your argument anyway: I'm not sure what your definition of old is, but Wikipedia puts the median age of presidential accession at 55 years, while the two youngest presidents were in their forties. In other words, no single part of your assertion is true. Like your other posts here, it is just made-up fake bla-bla. 

 

You seem to be trying to stir things up and provoke emotive responses by saying outrageous things, but if you are a Russian troll, you are not a very good one. The idea is to be subtle so people don't catch on. Equating Joe Biden with Donald Trump is not being subtle. It is also not being even a little bit accurate, just like your ridiculous statement about presidential candidates having to be rich, white, corrupt and old. You are entitled to your opinion, if that is really what it is, but don't expect to pick up many converts here.





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  #2530138 28-Jul-2020 14:28
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@Nathan, it's against etiquette to post directed responses at users.

I know I'm being a hypocrite by posting a directed response to you.

You'd be easier to take seriously if you'd post links to some resources instead of posting some wild conspiracy theory.

For instance you said both Trump and Biden are rapists. A serious charge.

Trump admitted to sexual assault with his infamous "grab them by the pussy" remarks. He's also closely associated with Jeffrey Epstein and his sexual grooming wife. Sexual misconduct allegations have been made against Trump by at least 22 women.

Want to back up your claim that Biden is a rapist? Tara Reid has changed her story:

Tara Reade alleged in April 2019 that Biden touched her in ways that made her feel uncomfortable while she worked in his Senate office in 1993.

In March 2020, Reade alleged that Biden sexually assaulted her in 1993.

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  #2530145 28-Jul-2020 14:40
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Rikkitic:

 

The wider point is that you are full of BS

 

 

one candidate is 73, the other 79, that is old. Both are white.  Both are rich.  Both are corrupt.  It is true that neither are proven rapists.

 

I've never posted an outrageous fake made-up thing, ever.

 

I'm a frustrated voter, not a Russian troll.  The only thing I want to stir up, is the system that accepts both these useless candidates as fait accompli.  Its not good enough, its pathetic.


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  #2530147 28-Jul-2020 14:40
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nathan:  the question voters aught to be asking of their 2 respective parties is how do we keep a straight face and believe that 2 70 year old men are capable of performing the hardest, most stressful, most important job in the world.

 



I agree that both candidates are too old for the job.

 

Both candidates are "rubbish", but very different kinds of rubbish:

Biden is past his "best by" date.
But Trump is toxic waste.

 





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  #2530148 28-Jul-2020 14:47
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nathan:

 

 

 

one candidate is 73, the other 79, that is old. Both are white.  Both are rich.  Both are corrupt.  It is true that neither are proven rapists.

 

I've never posted an outrageous fake made-up thing, ever.

 

I'm a frustrated voter, not a Russian troll.  The only thing I want to stir up, is the system that accepts both these useless candidates as fait accompli.  Its not good enough, its pathetic.

 

 

Age has sod all to do with their abilities to lead the same way gender and race have sod all to do with their ability to lead. The attributes of the two leading candidates seem to be seriously lacking and I would feel fail to meet the key skill sets to meet the requirements of the job. They are incompetent at he minimum age for the role (35) as they are incompetent now in their seventies.





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  #2530232 28-Jul-2020 16:26
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The Washington Post - Trump, Merkel and the U.S.’s waning global clout

 

today  

 


For a third year in a row, Germany is on top. 

 

An annual Gallup survey that polled respondents in 135 countries and territories over their views of four major world powers - the United States, Germany, Russia and China - placed Germany at the head of the pack, with a median global approval rating of 44 percent. 

 

The United States ranked further below at 33 percent, just about tied with China, the country that President Trump and many of his Republican allies view as a civilizational rival. ...

 

Other recent polling offers further evidence of the trend. 

 

According to a Pew survey of respondents in 32 countries, 64 percent of people said they had no confidence in Trump as the United States’ leader. ...

 

A December 2019 YouGov poll in Germany found that Trump was perceived as a greater threat than autocrats in Moscow, Beijing and Pyongyang. ...

 



 

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Gallup World Poll: Global Approval of U.S. Leadership

 

 





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  #2530263 28-Jul-2020 17:04
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Is Joe Biden:

 

  • To old for the job - yes
  • Is his brain connected to his mouth in a coherent way - yes
  • Does he have a coherent thought - yes
  • Does he speak in complete sentences - yes
  • Does he stay on script - mostly
  • Is he narcissistic - probably not
  • Is he egotistic - all politicians are
  • Corrupt - maybe. He certainly does not appear to be blatantly obvious.
  • Has he played the Washington Lobbyist game - most certainly for years.
  • Is his tax returns available - yes
  • Will he set things up so family companies, investments etc benefit from his position - probably not
  • Will he be a nepotist - probably not
  • Will he at least listen and take on board expert advice - yes
  • Will he read briefing papers - most likely
  • Will he follow that advice - most times
  • Will he fall asleep during briefings - maybe
  • Does he know world geography - yes
  • Does he know world politics and statesmanship - yes
  • Does he truly know what international treaties are - yes
  • Will he talk openly about Intelligence matters - no
  • Will he keep firing the NO staff till he finds a yes person - probably not
  • Will he fire the Federal WatchDogs - no
  • Will he pardon blatant criminals - probably not
  • Will the Democrat’s win both houses - probably yes
  • Will he have a VP that could very well be the next President after him - whenever that will be - yes
  • Will he run for a second term - probably not

Please add to this list

EDIT: turned off spell checker 😀

 

 





Whilst the difficult we can do immediately, the impossible takes a bit longer. However, miracles you will have to wait for.


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  #2530311 28-Jul-2020 17:29
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Age like gender or race is NOT a disqualification for the job.




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  #2530324 28-Jul-2020 18:42
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Adding to list above:- replace every properly with probably!!


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