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  #2606430 18-Nov-2020 17:01
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geekIT:

 

neb: A standard trait for psychopathic personalities is "if I can't have her, nobody can". He can still cause an awful lot of damage if he decides to go down that route (but I think he's more a sociopath than a psychopath, so what we're seeing his him lashing out at anyone he deems disloyal rather than deliberate destruction).

 

If for no other reason than the following, I'd class Trump as a psychopath.

 

Sociopaths make up around 4% of the population, psychopaths 1%. Assuming the percentage holds true globally, that percentage translates to about 32,000 sociopaths worldwide, and 8,000 psychopaths.

 

I know the world's in a mess, but I think it'd be a damn site worse if there were 32,000 people as crazy as Trump.  

 

BTW, many shrinks believe psychopathy is of genetic origin, with sociopathy due to childhood environmental issues. Trump's mental makeup may be a combination of both factors.

 

 

If world population is 7.8 billion then you're maths is way off.

 

It would be 78,000,000 psychopaths and 312,000,000 sociopaths.

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  #2606441 18-Nov-2020 17:41
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Damn! We're in worse shape than I thought.




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  #2606444 18-Nov-2020 17:43
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Rikkitic:

 

Sign of hope? Michigan's largest county, where many Biden votes were concentrated, reversed course after Republican officials initially blocked certification of the result. This drew applause from Republican partisans, including the idiot in chief, who complimented the certification board on its decision just after massive voter blowback forced it to change its mind. The decision is now being loudly celebrated as a win for democracy. 

 

 

 

 

wow potentially every county can disrupt the process by blocking certification?!

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  #2606446 18-Nov-2020 17:44
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GSA don't decide the election, the electoral college does. They don't do that until the states certify the result. It will progress as it is meant to. Trump will make lots of noise but it's out of his hands.

There is a process that will be followed and Biden will be president on the 20th of Jan.

 

ok ... i'll set my calendar for Dec 14 (Dec 15 NZT) ... here's hoping ...

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  #2606450 18-Nov-2020 18:06
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geekIT:

If for no other reason than the following, I'd class Trump as a psychopath.

 

 

Getting pedantic (see the other thread about this :-) but "sociopath" and "psychopath" aren't really clinical terms, people are diagnosed as having a certain type of personality disorder, in Trump's case narcissistic personality disorder (NPD), and then graded by severity, typically on a scale like the Hare Psychopathy Checklist (PCL-R). Trump probably doesn't score high enough on that to be classed as a true psychopath. And before people google PCL-R and try applying it, don't expect to get a very representative result from just using it as a shopping list, it's a diagnostic scale not a cookbook.

 

 

BTW, many shrinks believe psychopathy is of genetic origin, with sociopathy due to childhood environmental issues. Trump's mental makeup may be a combination of both factors.

 

 

The most common theory is that it's a combination of nature and nurture. There was an interesting study done some years ago with siblings, possibly twins (it's a while since I read about it) who had been separated at birth and raised under very different circumstances. Those raised under the "right" (meaning wrong) conditions developed psychopathic tendencies, those raised under good conditions didn't even though they had the same genes.

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  #2606451 18-Nov-2020 18:08
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geekIT:

Sociopaths make up around 4% of the population, psychopaths 1%.

 

 

An additional note for this point, it's a predator/prey relationship. If the predator population rises, more people are exposed to them and know how to recognise them, so they become less effective as predators. The hypothesised 1% is the natural balance point.

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  #2606452 18-Nov-2020 18:13
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He is sacking people left and right in a tantrum of paranoid lashing out. He actually will have to be removed by force, kicking and screaming like the toddler he is. It is not an act. It is not a damaged personality. It is actually who he is. I really hope, though I do not expect, that Pence will step up and invoke the 25th. I don’t think the country can survive him until January. He is a dangerous madman.

 

 

Required watching: The end of Downfall, which is an accurate portrayal of what happens when a sociopath's world collapses around him and he's forced to face reality.

 

 

Note that I'm not using this as an opportunity to compare Trump to Hitler but to point out a good portrayal of what happens when someone with the same personality type as Trump faces his endgame.

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  #2606456 18-Nov-2020 18:18
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neb:
geekIT:

 

Sociopaths make up around 4% of the population, psychopaths 1%.

 

An additional note for this point, it's a predator/prey relationship. If the predator population rises, more people are exposed to them and know how to recognise them, so they become less effective as predators. The hypothesised 1% is the natural balance point.

 

 

 

Tangent: read Firefall. Posits that 'vampires' are a genetic variant of homo sapiens categorised by super strength and intelligence. But the variation that gives them the intelligence also makes them psychopaths and a critical neural weakness that short-circuits their brain (like an epileptic seizure) when they see a vertical and horizontal line intersect. This is the origin of the crucifix weakness. Vampires were a species that predated on homo sapiens in the distant past.

 

In this book, geneticists have resurrected the vampires and put them to use, because as with the majority of psychopaths, they don't have to be bloodthirsty murderers as long as you can keep them interested with something else.




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  #2606543 18-Nov-2020 22:31
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geekIT: ...

 

Sociopaths make up around 4% of the population, psychopaths 1%. Assuming the percentage holds true globally, that percentage translates to about 32,000 sociopaths worldwide, and 8,000 psychopaths.

 

...

 

 

 

Something odd with the math here?

 

Current world population ~7.8 billion x 1% =  ...   well certainly a whole lot more than 8,000 (like 10,000 x that number)

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  #2606582 19-Nov-2020 07:24
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article about GSA (no interviews just some opinion i guess) https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/18/politics/biden-transition-trump-delay/index.html

 

 

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  #2606603 19-Nov-2020 08:36
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Medal for Kayne West

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  #2606607 19-Nov-2020 08:42
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Psychopathy in the workplace

Careers with highest proportion of psychopaths
  1. CEO
  2. Lawyer
  3. Media (TV/radio)
  4. Salesperson
  5. Surgeon
  6. Journalist
  7. Police officer
  8. Clergy
  9. Chef
  10. Civil servant

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  #2606619 19-Nov-2020 09:12
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Trump is a whole mix of mental disorders.

 

Almost certainly Narcissistic Personality Disorder and Antisocial Personality Disorder. He would appear to have absolutely no conscience or empathy whatsoever, and is not even able to fake them which would indicate he is unable to even grasp them as concepts.

 

None of this is new information. But now we have to ask ourselves what does someone with no empathy or conscience and poor impulse control do to try to retain his perceived status as the greatest President in history and prevent his enemies "stealing" it from him?

 

EDIT: The more I watch and read, the more I think he may actually believe what he is saying. Maybe he's not pathological liar, to quote George Costanza "It's not a lie if you believe it". This would make him so much more dangerous.

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  #2606719 19-Nov-2020 10:07
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kingdragonfly: Psychopathy in the workplace

Careers with highest proportion of psychopaths

 

     

  1. CEO
  2. Lawyer
  3. Media (TV/radio)
  4. Salesperson
  5. Surgeon
  6. Journalist
  7. Police officer
  8. Clergy
  9. Chef
  10. Civil servant

 

 

Sorry, Kingdragonfly. Your list was incomplete :-)

 

     

  1. American President if named Donald John Trump
  2. CEO
  3. Lawyer
  4. Media (TV/radio)
  5. Salesperson
  6. Surgeon
  7. Journalist
  8. Police officer
  9. Clergy
  10. Chef
  11. Civil servant

 

 




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TRUMP FURIOUS AFTER WHITE HOUSE H.R. SCHEDULES HIS EXIT INTERVIEW

 

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Donald J. Trump was reportedly furious after the White House’s Human Resources Department notified him that it had scheduled his exit interview, the head of H.R. has revealed.

 

Carol Foyler, the H.R. chief who was the target of Trump’s wrath, said that the exit interview is a “valuable tool” to help make the White House a better working environment.

 

“Everyone who leaves the White House has to participate in an exit interview,” she said. “That's been the case with every one of the nine thousand people who left during the past four years.”

 

The H.R. executive said that she hoped that the interview could help Trump explore any workplace issues that led to his departure.

 

“The previous three people who had this job held it for eight years but he only lasted four,” she said. “It would be helpful to get his perspective on why things didn’t work out for him here.”




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