Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#2629776 3-Jan-2021 18:25

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Rikkitic: Up until now every single reference I have seen to this across multiple news sites has said the election result is set in stone and there is no chance whatsoever of it being changed. ...

Remember the good old days in 2016 when there was "no chance whatsoever" that Trump would be elected? 🙁

You are 110% correct.But there were reasons. Dismal, need a change, anyone who is rich (which must be successful) successful (which must be successful) and will drain the swamp, worked. Non politician I'll give that a go. Retrospectively it makes perfect sense. Take today. The Queen, Mother Teresa, Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, they all qualify, and would do remarkably well. Unfortunately, Trump was the short straw.

Edit Politician from Optician lol

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#2629777 3-Jan-2021 18:28

kingdragonfly:

Anything is possible. , undergo a sex change to be a person

FTFY :-)

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#2629784 3-Jan-2021 18:54

Counterpoint: Ted Cruz is actually Canadian :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz

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#2629915 3-Jan-2021 21:21

Don't the secret service ask for volunteers to become part of his detail once he has lost office ??.

What if there are no takers are some poor buggers just assigned cause they are not liked ??

Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding : Ice cream man , Ice cream man

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#2629937 3-Jan-2021 22:35

Interesting story from today's Guardian:

Facts won't fix this: experts on how to fight America's disinformation crisis

America’s current disinformation crisis is the culmination of more than two decades of pollution of the country’s information ecosystem, Wardle said. The spread of disinformation on social media is one part of that story, but so is the rise of alternative rightwing media outlets, the lack of investment in public media, the demise of local news outlets, and the replacement of shuttered local newspapers with hyper-partisan online outlets.

This “serious fragmentation” of the American media ecosystem presents a stark contrast with, say, the UK, where during some weeks of the pandemic, 94% of the UK adult population, including 86% of younger people, tuned into the BBC, a publicly funded broadcaster, according to official statistics.

And the left and right in the US don’t merely have different sets of media outlets for their different audiences: they have also developed distinct models of information-sharing, Wardle said. Mainstream media outlets still follow a traditional top-down broadcast model: an authoritative source produces the news and sends it out to consumers. The rightwing media ecosystem, which developed through talk radio, on the other hand, operates as a network of media personalities interacting with each other, “a community telling stories to their own community”, Wardle said.

Trump has built on that, embracing what Kate Starbird, a University of Washington professor who studies disinformation, on Twitter called a model of “participatory disinformation”.

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#2629970 4-Jan-2021 07:53

Richard Nixon got out of the White House for a lot less than this: "‘I just want to find 11,780 votes’: In extraordinary hour-long call, Trump pressures Georgia secretary of state to recalculate the vote in his favor" - from a recorded call:

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

Trump dismissed their arguments.

“The people of Georgia are angry, the people in the country are angry,” he said. “And there’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.”

Raffensperger responded: “Well, Mr. President, the challenge that you have is, the data you have is wrong.”

At another point, Trump said: “So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state.”

The rambling and at times incoherent conversation offered a remarkable glimpse of how consumed and desperate the president remains about his loss, unwilling or unable to let the matter go and still believing he can reverse the results in enough battleground states to remain in office.

“There’s no way I lost Georgia,” Trump said, a phrase he repeated again and again on the call. “There’s no way. We won by hundreds of thousands of votes.”

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#2629971 4-Jan-2021 07:59

About the call above: "But he [Trump] continued to make his case in repetitive fashion, until finally, after more than an hour, Raffensperger put an end to the conversation: “Thank you, President Trump, for your time.”"

Trump is such a loser.

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#2629979 4-Jan-2021 08:26

When does Michael Pence do his thing and tell Trump he lost? It happens on Thursday here, but when? Is it before we all wake up, or some time in the afternoon, or...?

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#2629980 4-Jan-2021 08:26

freitasm:

About the call above: "But he [Trump] continued to make his case in repetitive fashion, until finally, after more than an hour, Raffensperger put an end to the conversation: “Thank you, President Trump, for your time.”"

Trump is such a loser.

Worse than just a loser - Trump is a loser with a severe Narcissistic personality disorder, in a position of great power, who may genuinely believe himself to be a cheated winner.

A real and present danger. 🙁

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#2629984 4-Jan-2021 09:09

The recording:

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#2629985 4-Jan-2021 09:10

What's this stupid "March for Trump" going to achieve on the 6th? Anything? Something? Nothing?

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/protests/trump-supporters-rally-protest-january-6-maga-protest/65-2639563a-b04e-4a40-a028-23083673d46b

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#2629986 4-Jan-2021 09:11

They need to stop this guy. He keeps escalating.

Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

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#2630137 4-Jan-2021 11:12

Audio recording and full transcript of the Trump call to GA Secretary of State. Trump is a mafia-boss leader trying to corrupt everyone in that country.

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#2630138 4-Jan-2021 11:17

Old article from 2017. If anything, age has made him more delusional.

Salon: Trump appears delusional — but the modern-day GOP led the way

Donald Trump has taken the Republican tradition of lying to daring new heights. But he had a lot to work with

Donald Trump’s tenuous relationship with the truth has always been somewhat of a mystery, and it has often been difficult to tell whether the president is truly delusional or simply the biggest con man on the planet.

Since he announced his presidential candidacy more than two years ago, Trump has peddled conspiracy theories and falsehoods to the public like a false prophet selling hope, displaying an almost pathological disregard for the truth. As a result, many critics have assumed that he is a liar who deliberately and knowingly deceives the public. Others have contemplated whether he truly believes some of the nonsense that come out of his mouth, thus challenging the notion that he is consciously lying.

Both of these scenarios are disturbing in their own way — and, of course, they are not mutually exclusive. Trump may be a true believer one day and a liar the next; a credulous crackpot in one tweet, and a con artist in another.

Last week, however, the New York Times and the Washington Post published separate articles that suggest the president actually believes in his own BS most of the time, and that he has come to live in his own warped version of reality (call it “Trumptopia”). The coinciding reports, published on the same day, both portray the president as an increasingly deranged man who decides what is true and what is false (i.e., “fake news”), regardless of the evidence.
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#2630146 4-Jan-2021 11:43

Hitler finds out Trump lost the election (a Downfall parody):

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