Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#2630433 5-Jan-2021 08:21

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I know the ads on here are done by Google, but I just saw one (in the middle of this thread) for "help us investigate the Clinton Corruption". Jesus Christ, how about investigating all of Trump's corruption?? Or is he a perfect saint and Hillary was the devil??? Come on, Google...

Are you using a VPN? Shouldn't really see any ads like this in New Zealand...

No VPN, which I thought was quite odd. Remember though I did see that ad on here for Tulsi Gabbard during the primaries, so who knows :D

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#2630441 5-Jan-2021 09:01

I didn't listen to, or read transcript of, the entire phone called - but the the sections I did are mental. Surely that HAS to be prosecutable election interference?

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#2630444 5-Jan-2021 09:08

Paul1977: ... Surely that HAS to be prosecutable election interference?

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#2630447 5-Jan-2021 09:14

The crook in the Oval Office

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#2630453 5-Jan-2021 09:34

Even worse are the cowardly Republicans who are rushing to his defense.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/04/politics/trump-call-republican-reaction-censure-resolution/index.html

God, I hope they all lose their seats in their next election. IMO, they're just as bad as Trump himself.

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#2630454 5-Jan-2021 09:45

The hour long phone call is front page headlines everywhere ... EXCEPT Fox News.

It was carried as a secondary item, with four items saying Trump was right in accusing Georgia.

Here's the best: "Sen. Blackburn: Trump's Georgia call was 'not a helpful call'"

"Not helpful". Wow, I guess the hydrogen was not helpful in the Hindenburg disaster.

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#2630562 5-Jan-2021 10:59

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/us-election-donald-trump-heavily-criticised-after-leaked-phone-call-about-georgia-election/Y27KKUSIQ7NXPUNNSSRNREM7UM/

What I find ironic is even (if by some miracle) Georgia's result was overturned, he still wouldn't have enough votes to win the election! Yes, he would have more than he does now, but not nearly enough to win the whole thing. Joe would still win.

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#2630570 5-Jan-2021 11:31

OK, now I have read the entire transcript. Wow.

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#2630578 5-Jan-2021 11:48

I suspect there's a list of everyone Trump and Rudy who they think could change the results.

I'm sure Rudy made initial calls to everyone, and now Trump has made identical and desperate calls to the same people.

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#2630621 5-Jan-2021 11:52

quickymart:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/us-election-donald-trump-heavily-criticised-after-leaked-phone-call-about-georgia-election/Y27KKUSIQ7NXPUNNSSRNREM7UM/

What I find ironic is even (if by some miracle) Georgia's result was overturned, he still wouldn't have enough votes to win the election! Yes, he would have more than he does now, but not nearly enough to win the whole thing. Joe would still win.

Which begs the question, were similar calls made to the other swing states? Or is it simply a case of hoping that flipping one state will give Trump the narrative he needs to take this further?

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#2630630 5-Jan-2021 12:34

A little from column A, a little from column B, I suspect.

If I was the governor of one of those states, I would have absolutely 0 issue telling Trump where to go.

Edit; also some business leaders want Trump to STFU too: https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/donald-trumps-america/300198326/almost-200-us-business-leaders-urge-congress-to-certify-joe-bidens-election-win

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#2630773 5-Jan-2021 15:52

The Hill: Two House Democrats ask Wray to open 'immediate criminal investigation' into Trump

[Two House Democratic Representatives] ... called on FBI Director Christopher Wray to open a criminal probe into President Trump after the release of a recording of his Saturday call demanding Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger “find” additional votes for him.

..."As members of Congress and former prosecutors, we believe Donald Trump engaged in solicitation of, or conspiracy to commit, a number of election crimes," the [two House Representatives] wrote in a letter Monday. "We ask you to open an immediate criminal investigation into the president.

...The evidence of election fraud by Mr. Trump is now in broad daylight. The prima facie elements of the above crimes have been met

...Given the more than ample factual predicate, we are making a criminal referral to you to open an investigation into Mr. Trump. Thank you for your attention to this urgent request.”

In the call, first reported by The Washington Post, Trump asks Raffensperger to “find 11,780 votes” in the Peach State. Raffensperger, who has repeatedly debunked the president’s claims of widespread election fraud in Georgia, refuses the request and questions his sources of information.