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  #1995516 13-Apr-2018 14:25
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Why would the Government rollout EV stations? that is a role for private ventures which is happening now.





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  #1995534 13-Apr-2018 14:42
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MikeB4:

 

Why would the Government rollout EV stations? that is a role for private ventures which is happening now.

 

 

They should be giving subsidies for solar panels on private roofs as a first step to encouraging clean fuels. As said before their policy decisions making seems very haphazard and inconstant. 


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  #1995536 13-Apr-2018 14:44
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Pumpedd:

 

MikeB4:

 

Why would the Government rollout EV stations? that is a role for private ventures which is happening now.

 

 

They should be giving subsidies for solar panels on private roofs as a first step to encouraging clean fuels. As said before their policy decisions making seems very haphazard and inconstant. 

 

 

Being said before does not make it correct. I would say that having the NZ Green Party on their side of the house would have made this decision predictable and consistent with the relationship.





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  #1995564 13-Apr-2018 15:19
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MikeB4:

Why would the Government rollout EV stations? that is a role for private ventures which is happening now.



Why. Because that would make ev ownership more tenable. I'd agree it's better for a private venture, but the govt may need to subsidise/support for it to actually happen on a larger scale. Im not necessarily saying it's a good idea, but ideas like that would actually help encourage a reduction in fossil fuels. Likewise @pumpped suggestion about solar panels. That would actually result in lower fossil fuel consumption.




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  #1995570 13-Apr-2018 15:29
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rjt123:
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Why would the Government rollout EV stations? that is a role for private ventures which is happening now.

 



Why. Because that would make ev ownership more tenable. I'd agree it's better for a private venture, but the govt may need to subsidise/support for it to actually happen on a larger scale. Im not necessarily saying it's a good idea, but ideas like that would actually help encourage a reduction in fossil fuels. Likewise @pumpped suggestion about solar panels. That would actually result in lower fossil fuel consumption.



 

The Government is already subsidising the uptake of EV by not charging road user charges for the vehicles not an insignificant amount. The uptake of domestic solar panels would not impact the use of fossil fuel to a great extent given that New Zealand already has circa 80%+ generation from renewable resources.





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  #1996507 15-Apr-2018 15:55
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rjt123:
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Why would the Government rollout EV stations? that is a role for private ventures which is happening now.

 



Why. Because that would make ev ownership more tenable. I'd agree it's better for a private venture, but the govt may need to subsidise/support for it to actually happen on a larger scale. Im not necessarily saying it's a good idea, but ideas like that would actually help encourage a reduction in fossil fuels. Likewise @pumpped suggestion about solar panels. That would actually result in lower fossil fuel consumption.

 

The Government is chipping in to subsidise the costs of charging station roll-outs, has been for yonks.

 

There's little point in going for mass EV adoption until manufacturers suppor the products; the battery pack issues with the Leafs will put a lot off but you'd feel better about taking the plunge when Nissan NZ starts selling the newer model this year with manufacturer backing. 


 
 
 

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  #1996572 15-Apr-2018 18:37
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I see now there's a bill out to ban anyone without a teaching degree from being a teacher. So no music teachers, art teachers, ballet teachers etc etc.

Good use of Parliament's time. He lied.





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  #1996575 15-Apr-2018 18:48
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Reference please. Don't keep it to yourself.

 

 





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Geektastic: I see now there's a bill out to ban anyone without a teaching degree from being a teacher. So no music teachers, art teachers, ballet teachers etc etc.

Good use of Parliament's time. He lied.

 

 

 

Not quite correct, its not banning them from doing what they are doing but what their title is, those without a formal teaching degree will need to use titles like mentor, lecturer, tutor or educator.





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  #1996647 15-Apr-2018 21:44
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MikeB4:

 

Geektastic: I see now there's a bill out to ban anyone without a teaching degree from being a teacher. So no music teachers, art teachers, ballet teachers etc etc.

Good use of Parliament's time. He lied.

 

 

 

Not quite correct, its not banning them from doing what they are doing but what their title is, those without a formal teaching degree will need to use titles like mentor, lecturer, tutor or educator.

 

 

 

 

Which is ridiculous.






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  #1996848 16-Apr-2018 10:38
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Geektastic:

 

MikeB4:

 

Geektastic: I see now there's a bill out to ban anyone without a teaching degree from being a teacher. So no music teachers, art teachers, ballet teachers etc etc.

Good use of Parliament's time. He lied.

 

 

 

Not quite correct, its not banning them from doing what they are doing but what their title is, those without a formal teaching degree will need to use titles like mentor, lecturer, tutor or educator.

 

 

 

 

Which is ridiculous.

 

 

 

 

Why?

 

At some point Doctor, Engineer,  Accountant became titles linked to a formal qualification why not teacher?





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  #1996915 16-Apr-2018 11:16
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At some point Doctor, Engineer,  Accountant became titles linked to a formal qualification why not teacher?

 

 

I agree.  I see it as analogous to nursing.

 

The motive here is not professional standards, a such as the teachers union having its hand up labour.  But I agree with the outcome.

 

It seem the govt can get some thing right by accident eventually

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem

 

 





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  #1996929 16-Apr-2018 11:39
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For the proposed legislation, a correction to what's claimed above - a teaching degree isn't needed, any degree and dip ed qualify the teacher to use the title.

 

It's targeted solely at trying to prevent charter schools from using the term "teacher" for staff that don't have that minimum qualification.  Seems petty to me - but I suppose it keeps the teacher unions happy.  I doubt whether many or most people sending their kids to a charter school could care less about academic qualifications of the teaching staff.

I'm very unsure about Hipkins - he's like a bull at a gate.  I'd give him an A for effort and enthusiasm - so far I'm not ranking him for execution and result, but my expectations are dropping.


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  #1996965 16-Apr-2018 12:34
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MikeB4:

 

Geektastic:

 

MikeB4:

 

Geektastic: I see now there's a bill out to ban anyone without a teaching degree from being a teacher. So no music teachers, art teachers, ballet teachers etc etc.

Good use of Parliament's time. He lied.

 

 

 

Not quite correct, its not banning them from doing what they are doing but what their title is, those without a formal teaching degree will need to use titles like mentor, lecturer, tutor or educator.

 

 

 

 

Which is ridiculous.

 

 

 

 

Why?

 

At some point Doctor, Engineer,  Accountant became titles linked to a formal qualification why not teacher?

 

 

 

 

Equally, why? Why would a ballet teacher need a degree in teaching? Indeed, why does any teacher need a degree in teaching? I had a number of excellent teachers who had degrees (sometimes several) in the subjects they taught rather than in teaching. Teaching is a skill, not something you can learn by rote or by doing a degree in it. Engineering etc are not that kind of skill - they are hard skills as opposed to soft skills. There is only one way to correctly calculate if a bridge will collapse. There are many ways to teach a child how to do something.

 

 

 

It's just a bung to the teacher's union to say thanks IMO.






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Geektastic:

 

It's just a bung to the teacher's union to say thanks IMO.

 

 

Yep.





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