Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#2634961 13-Jan-2021 19:30

gzt: American is like 97% christian and even many evangelicals of those are not trump supporters. The people you talk about are pretty much a minority although they are noisy and fund a lot.

It's confusing when you talk about religion, because when you add up the figures you get 121%.

Just like when you ask people to identify with race, they often identify with more than one.

The US is at least 70.6% Christian, and 25.4% say they're Evangelical (personally I find this a little scary )

23.5% are non-religious, which is also a lot.

Not so long along non-religious were in the 10% range, so a very significant rate of growth.

Pew Research: Religious Landscape Study

Christian --- 70.6%
---- Evangelical --- 25.4%
---- Catholic --- 20.8%
--- Protestant (non- Evangelical) --14.7%

Everything else ---- 29.4%

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#2634962 13-Jan-2021 19:32

The fact that 203 of them voted against the motion should scare the hell out of everyone.

A motion you knew would pass, and would be rejected by Pence, yet you still vote no so you can go down in the record as nuts?

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#2634965 13-Jan-2021 19:38

JaseNZ:
They should be able to override Pence if they have the majority of the vote to invoke it.

The 25th amendment is a really badly written amendment. It had to cover such things as a bomb going off and killing many senior level politicians.

If the vice-President is not playing ball, my understanding is 25th amendment can't be invoked.

Note that in the past, incapacitated has always been "dead".

"Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

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#2634978 13-Jan-2021 20:13

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#2634986 13-Jan-2021 20:35

Tinkerisk: # 7 #

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#2634992 13-Jan-2021 20:57

msukiwi:
And now they are apparently going to put razor wire on top of the fence around the Capitol Building!

Will they ask Mexico to pay for it?

If you ask me it'd be better placed around 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, facing inwards.

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#2634993 13-Jan-2021 20:58

freitasm:
May it move away from this soon.

Naah, waaaaay too entertaining, it's Game of Thrones, the Sopranos, and The Wire all rolled into one.

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#2634995 13-Jan-2021 21:00

quickymart:
I've always wondered how the religious right - who worship Trump and the ground he walks on - reconcile themselves with his (obvious) adultery and womanising.

Hypocrisy is an entry requirement for joining the religious right, so it comes with the territory.

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#2635039 13-Jan-2021 21:05

kingdragonfly: The 25th amendment is a really badly written amendment. It had to cover such things as a bomb going off and killing many senior level politicians.

Also as written the order of succession is nondeterministic because as positions are reshuffled the pecking order that determines the positions changes. In addition with all of the resignations from the sinking ship, half the positions in the pecking order aren't actually filled. Or maybe they are, but you'd have to ask Heisenberg's cat.

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#2635040 13-Jan-2021 21:06

Washington PostDominion lawsuit could be just start of legal action against Trump allies

Dominion Voting Systems is suing pro-Trump lawyer Sidney Powell for more than $1.3 billion in damages, according a lawsuit filed in D.C. federal court by the company Friday.

The company says that Powell has caused significant damage to its reputation and value by spreading unfounded conspiracy theories about it, including alleged ties to deceased Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chávez and rigging the election for President-elect Joe Biden. The lawsuit is seeking an injunction to remove all of Powell's statements determined to be false and defamatory.

The unprecedented lawsuit could be just the first domino in a chain of lawsuits against Trump allies who have spread misinformation about voter fraud — possibly including Donald Trump himself.

In its complaint, Dominion accuses Powell of working “in concert” with like-minded media outlets and allies.

Dominion's lawyer Tom Clare told reporters last week the lawsuit against Powell “is just the first in a series of legal steps.” (The lawsuit also names her law firm and the organization she set up to fundraise for her litigation.)

Dominion sent more than 20 individuals and media companies retraction demands or letters last month asking them to preserve relevant evidence. The recipients included Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani and pro-Trump news network One America News. Those requests are often a precursor to litigation.
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#2635045 13-Jan-2021 21:16

I bet he pardons himself on the last day, He has nothing to loose, the people who hate him will hate him even more and the ones that love him will be yeah fine by me.

Its just the kind of thing he would try and pull off.

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#2635057 13-Jan-2021 21:43

kingdragonfly: Washington PostDominion lawsuit could be just start of legal action against Trump allies

Dominion Voting Systems is suing pro-Trump lawyer Sidney Powell for more than $1.3 billion in damages, according a lawsuit filed in D.C. federal court by the company Friday.

The company says that Powell has caused significant damage to its reputation and value by spreading unfounded conspiracy theories about it, including alleged ties to deceased Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chávez and rigging the election for President-elect Joe Biden. The lawsuit is seeking an injunction to remove all of Powell's statements determined to be false and defamatory.

The unprecedented lawsuit could be just the first domino in a chain of lawsuits against Trump allies who have spread misinformation about voter fraud — possibly including Donald Trump himself.

In its complaint, Dominion accuses Powell of working “in concert” with like-minded media outlets and allies.

Dominion's lawyer Tom Clare told reporters last week the lawsuit against Powell “is just the first in a series of legal steps.” (The lawsuit also names her law firm and the organization she set up to fundraise for her litigation.)

Dominion sent more than 20 individuals and media companies retraction demands or letters last month asking them to preserve relevant evidence. The recipients included Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani and pro-Trump news network One America News. Those requests are often a precursor to litigation.
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Sweet, hope they take her to the cleaners and she even has to declare bankruptcy over it. Add Rudy while you're at it, a completely incompetent "lawyer", as well as adding Newsmax and Breitbart.

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#2635058 13-Jan-2021 21:44

JaseNZ:

I bet he pardons himself on the last day, He has nothing to loose, the people who hate him will hate him even more and the ones that love him will be yeah fine by me.

Its just the kind of thing he would try and pull off.

A self pardon would be challenged in the courts, with a very good chance it would be ruled unconstitutional and invalid.

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#2635071 13-Jan-2021 22:13

Paul1977:

JaseNZ:

I bet he pardons himself on the last day, He has nothing to loose, the people who hate him will hate him even more and the ones that love him will be yeah fine by me.

Its just the kind of thing he would try and pull off.

A self pardon would be challenged in the courts, with a very good chance it would be ruled unconstitutional and invalid.

Absolutely but would not stop him trying.

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#2635074 13-Jan-2021 22:20

quickymart:

I've always wondered how the religious right - who worship Trump and the ground he walks on - reconcile themselves with his (obvious) adultery and womanising. From my very hazy memory of the Bible, I'm fairly sure adultery is a sin...but I guess since he's a God to them, that's all good, right? Everything else "bad" he does is "the Democrats'/liberals/mainstream media/CNN's fault".

Nailed it.

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