If it's fake, it's a reasonably convincing one!

Um...Joe Biden?

That's actually disgusting.  I hope there are enough people in Ohio who know that the person Trump was warbling about dementedly was the polar opposite of everything the slow-thinking doofus is, ever was, and will ever be.

Who is Trump referencing here? I never watch anything he says. Is he the plant?

Never mind. I figured it out. Does that moron actually think he is fit to stand in Armstrong's shadow? What a loser! I still don't get the plant.

Oh. Could the plant possible be planet? Is that what he calls the moon? God he really is demented!

they'll still vote for him.

kingdragonfly: sent a brave young man from Ohio to a plant.

Just as well Trump wasn't in charge back then: Neil wouldn't have made it back to Earth.

On the other hand, if Trump had been in charge, he wouldn't have gone anyway.

The ship would have been pointed at a plant and it would have exploded on take-off.

Then he would go on to say, "best launch in the entire history of mankind, ever...beautiful..."

Is this a sign of hope, or desperation? A grand jury in New York has indicted (finally!) the Trump organisation (but not Trump himself) on tax evasion charges. It may or may not amount to something. If it does, it could ultimately bring Trump and his whole nest of vipers down. But if it doesn't, it could end in another major fizzle like previous attempts to hold Trump accountable. In that case, he is likely to remain untouchable forever and probably become dictator of America.

Taxes is what the feds got Capone on. They got him on this because they couldn't get him on anything else, like all the murders he committed. It worked out because it broke him and destroyed his power. Can it also do that to Trump? He has been pretty slick at avoiding accountability up to now.

The good news is they have finally decided to go after Trump on something. The bad news is they couldn't find anything better and Trump is only indirectly being targeted. If they can't get him on this, they will never get him on anything. Let's keep our fingers crossed.

Rikkitic:

The good news is they have finally decided to go after Trump on something. The bad news is they couldn't find anything better and Trump is only indirectly being targeted. If they can't get him on this, they will never get him on anything. Let's keep our fingers crossed.

Rikkitic:

 

The good news is they have finally decided to go after Trump on something. The bad news is they couldn't find anything better and Trump is only indirectly being targeted. If they can't get him on this, they will never get him on anything. Let's keep our fingers crossed.

Even if Trump was convicted of heinous crimes and imprisoned, that doesn't prevent him from running in 2024.

Everybody knew he was a grifter, racist, philanderer, tax dodger, bigot, mumbling incoherent fool, cheat, liar, fascist, but almost half voted for him regardless - and will do so again.

The GOP can't turn on him - that would utterly destroy their "base". The Trumpers wouldn't ever vote Democrat, but they sure as hell won't vote for the party that betrayed their hero. Which would mean the GOP is finished, probably for decades.

Fred99:

 

Everybody knew he was a grifter, racist, philanderer, tax dodger, bigot, mumbling incoherent fool, cheat, liar, fascist, but almost half voted for him regardless - and will do so again.

 

I agree Fred - this passage is from the book Shattered, about Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign, just after the Access Hollywood tape was released:

If the rest of his antics and insults hadn’t suppressed his base, this tape wasn’t going to do it. “People already knew he was a womanizing piece of s--t,” a senior Clinton aide said. “It doesn’t change the narrative.”

The Guardian - Researchers reveal corrosive power of Trump’s lie of a stolen election

Exposure to unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud reduces confidence in elections and factchecks have little effect ...

 

After the 2018 election, a team of researchers surveyed more than 4,200 people and exposed them to tweets claiming voter fraud. 

 

The people in the study* either saw non-political tweets, or a series of tweets from politicians alleging voter fraud. Some participants saw a series of factchecking tweets after they saw the voter fraud ones.

 

The people who saw the voter fraud tweets reported less confidence in elections than those who saw non-political tweets, the study found. The factchecks did not have a measurable effect on voter confidence.

 

“Our results show that exposure to unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud from prominent Republicans reduces confidence in elections, especially among Republicans and individuals who approve of Donald Trump’s performance in office,” researchers wrote in the study, published this week in the Journal of Experimental Political Science. 

“Worryingly, exposure to fact-checks that show these claims to be unfounded does not measurably reduce the damage from these accusations.”

 

“The results suggest that unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud undermine the public’s confidence in elections, particularly when the claims are politically congenial, and that these effects cannot easily be ameliorated by fact-checks or counter-messaging.”...

 

*  Journal of Experimental Political Science - The Effects of Unsubstantiated Claims of Voter Fraud on Confidence in Elections.  Published online by Cambridge University Press:  28 June 2021