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#2433229 5-Mar-2020 15:15

I like Jacinda Ardern as a person and I believe she has a lot to offer. On the international stage she has done a lot to raise the awareness of New Zealand and against a back drop of some terrible world leaders she is a bright spot. Domestically I feel she has been lacking in her leadership of people although Winston Peters et al would be a nightmare for anyone to handle. I believe she is a good PM but has some very weak ministers under her. The Coalition has not performed well and have missed many of their stated objectives.

I do not like Simon Bridges, I believe the National party made a huge mistake selecting him as a leader but given the National parties to five there is not a lot to go with. I believe National has been a largely ineffectual opposition during the last three years when there is a lot they could work with. However the media has had an ongoing romance with JA and the Coalition which of course makes the task of an opposition party harder.

At the end of the year the New Zealand public will do the performance appraisals and deliver their findings. I believe that a Labour led coalition will be returned but it will be a Labour NZ Green coalition. I do not believe National has the ability or the leadership in place to win the election or lead the country. With the challenges we are facing right now a change in government would not be in the best interests of the country.

Thats my view on it from a long time National Party supporter.

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#2433230 5-Mar-2020 15:17

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#2433237 5-Mar-2020 15:46

You wont need to warn me again I have closed my account

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#2433260 5-Mar-2020 16:05

gulfa:

Yes there appears to be differing opinions on this according to Bridges he is a very smart guy. But to many of us who have listened to the tape think like me that he really new what was going on, Be interesting to see the results of the upcoming court case

So you want me to listen to the tape and hear something but you can't tell me what that thing is, just your personal thinking that "he knew what was going on".

Again, post the relevant part from the transcript. You said he lied. Show me where the lie was. Not just a "Oh he's winking and stuff, I'm sure of it". What made you definitively say he had lied?

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#2433266 5-Mar-2020 16:12

MikeB4:

I like Jacinda Ardern as a person and I believe she has a lot to offer. On the international stage she has done a lot to raise the awareness of New Zealand and against a back drop of some terrible world leaders she is a bright spot. Domestically I feel she has been lacking in her leadership of people although Winston Peters et al would be a nightmare for anyone to handle. I believe she is a good PM but has some very weak ministers under her. The Coalition has not performed well and have missed many of their stated objectives.

I do not like Simon Bridges, I believe the National party made a huge mistake selecting him as a leader but given the National parties to five there is not a lot to go with. I believe National has been a largely ineffectual opposition during the last three years when there is a lot they could work with. However the media has had an ongoing romance with JA and the Coalition which of course makes the task of an opposition party harder.

At the end of the year the New Zealand public will do the performance appraisals and deliver their findings. I believe that a Labour led coalition will be returned but it will be a Labour NZ Green coalition. I do not believe National has the ability or the leadership in place to win the election or lead the country. With the challenges we are facing right now a change in government would not be in the best interests of the country.

Thats my view on it from a long time National Party supporter.

This is a good read on things IMO. Jacinda good, but far too highly rated for it to be realistic for her to live up to. Labour just absolutely terrible, and they're either total failures or blatant liars. National, somehow and incredibly, bereft of candidates and promoting authoritarian conservatives instead of people who believe in the same relative liberalism that made Key so popular. Unfathomable to think they could proving to be an even less appealing prospect in many ways, but here we are.

The real losers are us. The media won't hold Jacinda towards meaningful account. Simon can't hold anyone to account for anything, and if he could, he doesn't have the comms around him to tell him where to start. And all the while the things the country needs - meaningful tax reform, meaningful RMA reform and infrastructure - just look less and less like ever happening. What makes matters even worse is we have an abject racist spending taxpayer money on republican porkbarrel-boondogglery and a Deputy PM who is immune from any accountability whatsoever.

We may not be a corrupt country, but we are certainly one that rewards ineptness.

For me, the frustration is I legitimately believe many people would have been better off if Bill English's social investment programme had been allowed to stretch its legs. Instead we got sold hype and have been delivered very little. He was an exceptionally astute manager and I believe we are poorer for not having him in charge for another term while Labour weeded out their dead wood in opposition under Ardern, instead of making them hopeless cabinet ministers.

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#2433274 5-Mar-2020 16:27

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12144129

Here is the link to the transcript Read and the tell me he didnt know about the Donations

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#2433277 5-Mar-2020 16:31

Bill English's religious beliefs was not something of was keen on although to some degree he did keep it out of politics and even admitted he got wrong with his view on marriage reform. I really wish he had stayed as leader of the National Party he did not lose the last election and he was a good steady as it goes leader. I certainly understand his reasons for retiring, politics takes a heavy toll on members and their families. If/when Chris Luxon gets into Parliament I hope National resists the urge to move him up the ladder. I am not keen on him to be leader or PM.

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#2433281 5-Mar-2020 16:36

gulfa:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12144129

Here is the link to the transcript Read and the tell me he didnt know about the Donations

I've read it. I've heard. I'm asking you specifically which bit is the lying about the donations.

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#2433288 5-Mar-2020 16:46

gulfa:

You wont need to warn me again I have closed my account

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#2433300 5-Mar-2020 16:59

To move things along: Quite a bit of press about the Light Rail project so we are probably near a decision:

https://www.greaterauckland.org.nz/2020/03/04/finding-a-constructive-way-forward-for-light-rail/

For some reason, the Government is choosing a delivery partner before we actually know what the light rail will be (street level vs. metro style) or what it is trying to achieve (speed to the airport vs. connecting communities vs. reducing bus congestion along transport corridors).

Even more infuriating given the current low interest rate environment and the prospect that the government may select a foreign superfund PPP delivery partner and lock in gold-plated returns for an over-specced system for a single line to line the pockets of foreign pensioners.

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#2433336 5-Mar-2020 18:25

GV27:

To move things along: Quite a bit of press about the Light Rail project so we are probably near a decision:

https://www.greaterauckland.org.nz/2020/03/04/finding-a-constructive-way-forward-for-light-rail/

For some reason, the Government is choosing a delivery partner before we actually know what the light rail will be (street level vs. metro style) or what it is trying to achieve (speed to the airport vs. connecting communities vs. reducing bus congestion along transport corridors).

Even more infuriating given the current low interest rate environment and the prospect that the government may select a foreign superfund PPP delivery partner and lock in gold-plated returns for an over-specced system for a single line to line the pockets of foreign pensioners.

What was the National plan? Given that congestion has been an issue for years and years, and that National took over almost 12 years ago, they must have had a plan? That would have been costed, have a builder and funding. What was that? Going by the commentary here, that the Coalition is terrible, National must be in for a landslide in September, so it shouldn't take a lot to re cost?

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#2433430 5-Mar-2020 22:29

tdgeek:
networkn: Ultimately, the PM should be directly and constantly across something this serious. I don't mean at arms length which is her usual management style (and one that hasn't worked well). She places far too much trust in her inexperienced ministers. She should be having war room meetings about this with her top people, the same people who were called in for the mosque shootings. Health Minister is calling for calm, which is fine and saying everything under control (which has been the call from every failed policy they haven't executed on well to date), and that they are doing everything they can.

I just don't have much confidence that those things are true based on what I can see and what is being reported.

All I know, is that her and her ministers are not manageing this crisis, its being managed by WHO, and also by our Ministry of Health, who while they fall under Aderns control, they are senior doctors, specialists, ex Registrars who now ply their trade in the national health system. Only they are qualified to make any calls. JA is just a speechmaker here, IMO. MoH will tell her what to do and what to make happen

There is a lot of coordination needed to implement the various policies required and direct resources to respond to events. PM has set a cabinet meeting per week for this purpose specifically. Good move. Personally I have a lot of confidence in the response so far.

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#2433472 6-Mar-2020 06:57

tdgeek:

GV27:

To move things along: Quite a bit of press about the Light Rail project so we are probably near a decision:

https://www.greaterauckland.org.nz/2020/03/04/finding-a-constructive-way-forward-for-light-rail/

For some reason, the Government is choosing a delivery partner before we actually know what the light rail will be (street level vs. metro style) or what it is trying to achieve (speed to the airport vs. connecting communities vs. reducing bus congestion along transport corridors).

Even more infuriating given the current low interest rate environment and the prospect that the government may select a foreign superfund PPP delivery partner and lock in gold-plated returns for an over-specced system for a single line to line the pockets of foreign pensioners.

What was the National plan? Given that congestion has been an issue for years and years, and that National took over almost 12 years ago, they must have had a plan? That would have been costed, have a builder and funding. What was that? Going by the commentary here, that the Coalition is terrible, National must be in for a landslide in September, so it shouldn't take a lot to re cost?

The National plan was to improve bus priority from the rail stations nearby with a view to providing direct rapid transit sometime before 2040 - i.e. do very little. However we say their approach to the CRL change over time as it become more politically expedient to support it rather than obstruct it.

The problem with the Light Rail is there have been four different studies on it and nothing has come to fruition, despite Auckland Transport having a relatively detailed plan for a central Auckland network to get some of the buses out of downtown Auckland. That's great for Wellington policy analysts but it's not so great for Auckland - our zoning in places across the network is effected by not knowing what sort of transport will serve which areas. And that's to say nothing of the billions of dollars we are losing in congestion across Auckland while we wait for a basic decision. When we do get one, it may not even solve the problems we have.

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#2433491 6-Mar-2020 08:31

Jeanette Fitzsimons has died. Very sad.

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#2433501 6-Mar-2020 09:11

GV27:

Jeanette Fitzsimons has died. Very sad.

I used to see her walking to to the Beehive most mornings on my way to work. She was a good ambassador for the green movement and certainly raised my concerns for our planet. RIP

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