Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#2858434 30-Jan-2022 11:08

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Long video, from an American who immigrated to Hungary. My thoughts are it could have as easily been about immigrating to New Zealand as Hungary.

Only indirectly about Trump, but an unfiltered peer into the mind of a Trump supporter.

Talks in passing about Charlottesville car attack. In the deep South, a white supremacist drove into a crowd of people peacefully protesting Civil war statues & a right-wing protest rally killing one person and injuring 35. The terrorist pleaded guilty to escape the death penalty. He got a life sentence plus 489 years instead of a death sentence.

Some rough language.

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#2858503 30-Jan-2022 12:57

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Racist, nazi sympathiser, white supremacist, toxic masculinity.

Yes, Trump supporter.

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Trump's popularity falls further, with 71% of Americans polled not wanting him to run in 2024.

New Marquette Law School Poll finds Trump and DeSantis drawing similar support, but each trailing Biden in possible 2024 presidential matchups; election confidence, COVID topics also surveyed.

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#2858531 30-Jan-2022 15:04

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From 2016. The same Trump supporters.

With Trump, it's always worse than you feared.

Washington Spectator: The alt-right come to Washington

...While [Trump advisor Steve] Bannon has attempted to disavow the “racial and anti-Semitic overtones” of the alt-right, he’s seized upon his own definition—largely for the sake of boosting [right-wing news outlet] Breitbart’s popularity—of the group as a home for “younger people who are anti-globalists, very nationalist, terribly anti-establishment.”

Yet the alt-right’s more contrarian writers insist there’s one crucial modifier missing from Bannon’s pro-nationalist push: “white.” Indeed, as Greg Johnson argued in the new-right Counter Currents site after Hillary Clinton’s speech in August condemning the alt-right, “the Alternative Right means White Nationalism—or it means nothing at all.”

Spencer and his clan show no intention of letting that connection die. Hours after most reporters left the Saturday session, a camera crew recording the conference for an upcoming documentary caught him closing the night with a grandiose Hitlerian tribute to Trump. “Hail Trump! Hail our people! Hail victory!” he shouted before the jubilant crowd. Several hands went up in enthusiastic Nazi salutes.

The speech, dripping with contempt, was a set piece from another era. “To be white is to be a striver, a crusader, an explorer, and a conqueror,” Spencer said, echoing a sentiment that bleeds through the pages of Mein Kampf. “We build, we produce, we go upward, and we recognize the central lie in American race relations. We don’t exploit other groups. We don’t gain anything from their presence. They need us and not the other way around.”
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#2858563 30-Jan-2022 17:26

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Trump's popularity falls further, with 71% of Americans polled not wanting him to run in 2024.

New Marquette Law School Poll finds Trump and DeSantis drawing similar support, but each trailing Biden in possible 2024 presidential matchups; election confidence, COVID topics also surveyed.

Wouldn't that be nice. Mind you, if they asked Republicans (only) probably 99% of them would want him to run again, like their lives depended on it. Not that he cares about them, or anything.

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#2858975 31-Jan-2022 08:36

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Wouldn't that be nice. Mind you, if they asked Republicans (only) probably 99% of them would want him to run again, like their lives depended on it. Not that he cares about them, or anything.

They also asked Republicans only that question. 63% of them want him to run again, 27% against it.

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#2858978 31-Jan-2022 08:46

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I hope that trend continues, especially when he does things like this: https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/30/politics/trump-rally-texas/index.html

Seriously, he had the chance to pardon the lot of them in his last hours as president but did nothing, so I dunno why he's had a change of heart (does he even have one?) now.

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#2859008 31-Jan-2022 09:39

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In the video below, the brazen lawyer implies RINO's, Republicans in Name Only, do not support Trump won the election.

Florida Phoenix: January 6 congressional panel subpoenas bogus pro-Trump electors from 7 states

The congressional committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol subpoenaed on Friday 14 people from seven states who participated as fake electors following the 2020 presidential election.

Groups from Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, New Mexico, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin all allegedly sent in lists of so-called alternate electors to the National Archives.

The groups had met in December 2020 to sign documents assigning their respective states’ Electoral College votes to former President Donald Trump — though their states actually voted to elect Joe Biden as president.

Various Republicans then urged the Trump administration to use the slates of bogus electors as a reason to block the certification of the election during a joint session of Congress on Jan. 6, 2021.
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Financial Times: Eric Trump has his moment in the spotlight in NY fraud probe

...A New York attorney-general, into the Trump Organization is now threatening to bring Eric into the spotlight.

...She claimed to have “significant evidence” that the Trumps may have committed fraud by routinely inflating the value of certain assets to flatter their net worth and improve their access to financing.

...As portrayed by the attorney-general, Eric made misrepresentations to auditors and contractors that caused them to vastly overstate Seven Springs’ value.

Those valuations not only made the Trumps’ finances look healthier to lenders, according to James, they may have also helped the former president to personally claim more than $5m in tax benefits.

The Trumps have repeatedly denied wrongdoing and dismissed the attorney-general’s investigation as a politically motivated witch hunt.

...Eric made the unusual claim that his family was “prosecuting” the attorney-general. “Letitia you cannot escape your own words,” he wrote. “This is all window dressing for your abuse of office and ethical misconduct (which we are prosecuting you for) and northing [sic] more than a PR move.”

...But Eric’s standing has been somewhat undercut by another disclosure in James’ filing: that he invoked his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination more than 500 times when questioned by prosecutors in October 2020.

In a civil case, jurors are allowed to make an “adverse inference” when a defendant refuses to answer a question and instead pleads the Fifth Amendment. Or, as Eric’s father put it during the 2016 presidential campaign: “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the fifth amendment?” At the time, he was casting aspersions on aides to his Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton. “The mob takes the fifth,” Trump said.
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The NY Times - Trump Says He Would Consider Pardons for Jan. 6 Defendants if Elected

30 Jan 2022

CONROE, Texas - Donald J. Trump said on Saturday that if elected to a new term as president, he would consider pardoning those prosecuted for attacking the United States Capitol on Jan. 6 of last year.

He also called on his supporters to mount large protests in Atlanta and New York if prosecutors in those cities, who are investigating him and his businesses, take action against him.

The promise to consider pardons is the furthest Mr. Trump has gone in expressing support for the Jan. 6 defendants. ...

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In Texas, Trump urged supporters to protest.

“If these radical, vicious, racist prosecutors do anything wrong or illegal,” he said, “I hope we are going to have in this country the biggest protests we have ever had in Washington DC, in New York, in Atlanta and elsewhere, because our country and our elections are corrupt.”

Prosecutors, he said, were “trying to put me in jail. These prosecutors are vicious, horrible people. They’re racists and they’re very sick. They’re mentally sick. They’re going after me without any protection of my rights by the supreme court or most other courts.”

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#2859288 31-Jan-2022 13:17

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30 Jan 2022

He also called on his supporters to mount large protests in Atlanta and New York if prosecutors in those cities, who are investigating him and his businesses, take action against him.

Awesome, Obstruction of Justice charge waiting to happen lol.

Trump urging his supporters to act aggressively is not necessarily a bad thing in the bigger picture. Jan 6th was a lesson learned and law enforcement using overwhelming force against Trump goons sends a clear message that taking orders from him has consequences.

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#2859312 31-Jan-2022 14:23

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The NY Times - Trump Says He Would Consider Pardons for Jan. 6 Defendants if ElectedHe also called on his supporters to mount large protests in Atlanta and New York if prosecutors in those cities, who are investigating him and his businesses, take action against him.

It's guaranteed the protesters will be large, even if there's a one. If it's summer in Atlanta / New York we'll have fewer protesters after the protest than before.

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#2859681 31-Jan-2022 23:29

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kingdragonfly: It's guaranteed the protesters will be large,

Particularly if they call in Meal Team Six. Semper fries!

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In Texas, Trump urged supporters to protest.

“If these radical, vicious, racist prosecutors do anything wrong or illegal,” he said, “I hope we are going to have in this country the biggest protests we have ever had in Washington DC, in New York, in Atlanta and elsewhere, because our country and our elections are corrupt.”

Prosecutors, he said, were “trying to put me in jail. These prosecutors are vicious, horrible people. They’re racists and they’re very sick. They’re mentally sick. They’re going after me without any protection of my rights by the supreme court or most other courts.”

The Washington Post - Georgia prosecutor asks FBI for security assistance following Trump comments at Texas rally

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The Atlanta-area prosecutor who is weighing whether to bring election-related criminal charges against former president Donald Trump is seeking FBI help in securing a county courthouse and government center in the wake of “alarming” rhetoric from Trump at a rally this weekend.

In a letter Sunday, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis pointed to comments from Trump at a rally in Texas about “racist” and “mentally sick” prosecutors examining a range of issues, including his company and his actions following the 2020 election. ...

Willis asked that resources be in place “well in advance” of May 2. That is the day a special purpose grand jury is set to convene to hear evidence in Willis’s criminal probe involving Trump and his associates.

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Welcome to America, 2022. Where a bad guy needs to get help from his unruly mob because he doesn't like being questioned on the fact that he (quite likely) did something wrong/bad.

Of course, if it's the other side? "Lock her up!" 🙄

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