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  #3255234 1-Jul-2024 18:26
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The Economist editorial says if Biden was a UK party leader he would have been replaced long ago by now and offers a list of 10 Democrat potential replacements.

The Economist leaves out the point that party leaders in UK are selected by MPs first and not by popular vote. A USA President position is very different. A fairly large down-payment on a war chest is required just to win the internal rank and file member vote across the USA. That process itself is seen as partly a demonstration of fundraising ability for the national presidential election campaign to come where an even higher spend is required to match or exceed the opponent from the other party. UK Prime Ministers are accountable to parliament and can be removed far easier than a USA President where it almost never happens. USA Presidents are almost as secure as a king.

I'd be interested to see the list of ten if anyone has it to hand. I probably have access on a different device.



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  #3255239 1-Jul-2024 18:37
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gzt: I'd be interested to see the list of ten if anyone has it to hand. I probably have access on a different device.

 

Do you mean this? https://archive.ph/7ztds

 

 


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  #3255303 1-Jul-2024 19:12
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Replacing Biden is not without risks.

 

California Gov. Gavin Newsom, 
A good part of America think that everyone who chooses to stay in California much less run it are demons.
Extreme Liberal demons at that. Its far from Reagan days.

 

Trump team are just going to go to town with that.
Plus all the liberal California type things that Newsom probably did.
As its that type of electorate. 
These would strike deep fear into all those swing states.
Evangelical Churches lead a campaign to try to have Newsome recalled.

 

Rest of USA may be convinced to be petrified of Californication. :-) 

 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlUKcNNmywk

 

 




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  #3255305 1-Jul-2024 19:20
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ezbee: A good part of America think that everyone who chooses to stay in California much less run it are demons.

 

Well, duh.  Everyone knows that.

 


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  #3255320 1-Jul-2024 19:57
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ezbee:

 

Rest of USA may be convinced to be petrified of Californication. :-) 

 

 

Actually, I quite liked that show - although I don't think a portion of America wants to end up like that either 😉


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  #3255399 1-Jul-2024 21:33
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Can’t really have a prez and VP Harris both from the same state. If Newsom is in then Harris is out. Can’t see that happening so the Brylcreem Kid is a no go IMHO.
If they replace Biden my money would be on Pritzker.

 
 
 

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  #3255401 1-Jul-2024 21:46
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Also means Trump probably wouldn't choose Marco Rubio as his VP either as both are from (or, at least, reside in) Florida.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/shannon-bream-marco-rubio-leave-florida-trumps-vice-president-pick-1897453

 

Maybe if Newsom replaces Biden, Harris could move? Unlikely though - and I'm just thinking of possible scenarios.


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  #3255405 1-Jul-2024 22:25
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quickymart:

 

Also means Trump probably wouldn't choose Marco Rubio as his VP either as both are from (or, at least, reside in) Florida.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/shannon-bream-marco-rubio-leave-florida-trumps-vice-president-pick-1897453

 

Maybe if Newsom replaces Biden, Harris could move? Unlikely though - and I'm just thinking of possible scenarios.

 

 

Carpetbagging has a long history in the US, a politician buying an garden plot in State B in order to run there when they actually reside in State A.  Hillary Clinton in NY is a prime example.  So this shouldn't stop anyone.


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  #3255443 2-Jul-2024 08:45
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Man, I feel sorry for the average hard-working American (whether left or right leaning) who just wants to live a decent quality life and achieve the best they can for themselves and their family and loved ones.





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  #3255451 2-Jul-2024 09:31
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The Dems wouldn't replace Biden with Harris. Her polling is even worse than his.


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  #3255477 2-Jul-2024 12:00
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Speculative polling isn't necessarily an indication of success or failure for a presidential run. Many past candidates have been relatively obscure until they chose to stand.

Harris did have a previous go which went to show she's an excellent fundraiser and has widespread appeal. A Harris run is not impossible to envisage.

At this point the risks of running Harris are higher than the risks of continuing with Biden. A Harris run is not on the cards at this time.

 
 
 

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  #3255793 3-Jul-2024 08:09
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I have thought about this long and hard.

 

If I could vote I would vote for Biden.
If Biden mumbled and lost his train of thought I would vote for Biden.
If Biden got lost on the way to the toilet I would vote for Biden.
If Biden forgot what a toilet was for I would vote for Biden.
If Biden said to vote for Trump I would vote for Biden.
If Biden was senile I would vote for Biden.
If Biden had a stroke I would vote for Biden.
If Biden was a corpse I would vote for Biden.

 

People need to understand what they are sleepwalking into. The alternative to Biden is the end of everything they take for granted. This is 1933 all over again. This is a second chance to stop the horror in its tracks. If Americans elect Trump again the whole world will get what they deserve. This is not about an old man who forgets things. Presidents are surrounded by advisors and staff. If these people are chosen for the right reasons, they can keep things on course. This election is not about Biden’s gaffs. It is about Trump’s malevolence. 





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  #3255804 3-Jul-2024 08:40
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"End of everything". "1933"... That's hysterical and overreactive. Nothing like any of these things occurred during Trump's first go and he's limited to only one more. The USA has checks and balances that have survived a couple of hundred years. 4 years of the orange buffoon cannot undo it. 

 

The biggest risk the USA faces is the lawlessness and rioting that will sadly ensue if Trump gets lawfully elected. Whipped up by this sort of talk.

 

 


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  #3255806 3-Jul-2024 08:47
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johno1234:

 

"End of everything". "1933"... That's hysterical and overreactive. Nothing like any of these things occurred during Trump's first go and he's limited to only one more. The USA has checks and balances that have survived a couple of hundred years. 4 years of the orange buffoon cannot undo it. 

 

The biggest risk the USA faces is the lawlessness and rioting that will sadly ensue if Trump gets lawfully elected. Whipped up by this sort of talk.

 

 

 

 

I bet that's what they said in 1933 too!

 

 





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