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#2946439 26-Jul-2022 10:20

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He follows the "butter" and uses it on both sides of the "bread". He will have to bring his son Lachlan Murdoch into line though.

Citizen Kane is Trumps favourite movie apparently and I thought Tomorrow Never Dies would be.

Elliot Carver anyone ?

Whilst the difficult we can do immediately, the impossible takes a bit longer. However, miracles you will have to wait for.

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#2946441 26-Jul-2022 10:22

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quickymart:

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/07/25/rupert-murdoch-donald-trump-splitsville-00047748

Is it really Splitsville though?

"Junk Donald for Ronald". DeSantis should definitely use that as one of his election slogans.

Graffiti it on Mar-a-Lago walls.

Whilst the difficult we can do immediately, the impossible takes a bit longer. However, miracles you will have to wait for.

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#2946443 26-Jul-2022 10:32

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FineWine:

quickymart:

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/07/25/rupert-murdoch-donald-trump-splitsville-00047748

Is it really Splitsville though?

"Junk Donald for Ronald". DeSantis should definitely use that as one of his election slogans.

Graffiti it on Mar-a-Lago walls.

Ron DeSantis or the preying mantis?

Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

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#2946698 26-Jul-2022 19:24

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Two stories on CNN

Murdoch's New York Post dumps Trump, calling him 'unworthy to be chief executive again'

Opinion: New York Post's editorial should worry Trump

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#2946714 26-Jul-2022 20:54

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https://www.lowellsun.com/2022/07/25/editorial-mark-meadows-sold-the-remains-of-his-soul-to-trump-he-might-pay-a-higher-price/

After reading this, I agree with the sentiment that Mark Meadows has made himself a deal with the Devil (ie, Trump)...but it probably didn't seem like this initially.

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#2946888 27-Jul-2022 11:41

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GOP Sen. Hawley Running From 'His' Jan. 6 Mob Is About Far More Than His Humiliation

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New video evidence from the January 6th Committee revealed Republican Senator Josh Hawley running from rioters after his fist salute outside the Capitol.

MSNBC’s Ari Melber reports on the backlash to Hawley’s Jan. 6 actions, and lessons from the Pharcyde song “Running” (“can’t keep running away… can’t keep running away”).

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#2946893 27-Jul-2022 11:59

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CNN: 'Baked Alaska' pleads guilty to US Capitol riot charge

A far-right internet personality [and Internet troll and an American neo-Nazi] who goes by the name "Baked Alaska" has agreed to plead guilty to unlawfully protesting at the US Capitol on January 6, 2021 -- after abandoning a plea agreement in May during a hearing in which he proclaimed he was "innocent."

Anthime Gionet livestreamed himself breaching the Capitol in a nearly 30-minute video that showed him encouraging others in the mob to enter the building and saying, "We ain't leaving this b*tch," according to his latest plea agreement filed Friday.

Prosecutors have said in court filings that his livestream helped identify other rioters and led to multiple arrests in the massive investigation.
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#2946933 27-Jul-2022 14:06

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A grim read about what it could take to stop the Republican party turning America into a dictatorship. This opinion piece is right, it will take several miracles.

https://newrepublic.com/article/167100/republican-party-turning-america-into-hungary

Edit: just started reading this: https://www.amazon.com/Thank-You-Your-Servitude-Washington/dp/0593296311/ref=pd_rhf_d_dp_s_ci_mcx_mr_hp_d_sccl_1_1/136-9099479-4880220?pd_rd_w=rlH4k&content-id=amzn1.sym.0a853d15-c5a9-4695-90cd-fdc0b630b803&pf_rd_p=0a853d15-c5a9-4695-90cd-fdc0b630b803&pf_rd_r=JZTMV7K5YTE50M68T2FR&pd_rd_wg=GBu5O&pd_rd_r=70b5a089-13cd-4c4d-8c36-3323e7353250&pd_rd_i=0593296311&psc=1 ...should be interesting.

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#2946976 27-Jul-2022 15:41

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The Guardian - Self-awareness in short supply as Trump calls for law and order in DC

27 July 2022

America first, irony last.

Donald Trump, the former US president accused of a coup attempt, returned to Washington on Tuesday with a plea for law and order to give police “the respect that they deserve”.

Trump spoke at a luxury hotel less than two miles from the US Capitol where, 18 months ago, his supporters furiously attacked law enforcement in a bid to overturn the 2020 presidential election result.

It was his first visit to the nation’s capital since he snubbed Joe Biden’s inauguration and took flight to Florida. ...

Trump complained: “There is no longer respect for the law and there certainly is no order. Our country is now a cesspool of crime. We have blood, death and suffering on a scale once unthinkable because of the Democrat party’s effort to destroy and dismantle law enforcement all throughout America. It has to stop and it has to stop now.”

Biden's response:

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#2947001 27-Jul-2022 16:41

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The Guardian - Garland promises ‘justice without fear or favor’ as DoJ digs into Trump’s January 6 role

27 July 2022

The US attorney general, Merrick Garland, said he would “pursue justice without fear or favor” in his decision on whether to charge Donald Trump with crimes related to the Capitol attack and his attempt to overturn the 2020 election ...

The department is conducting a criminal investigation into the events surrounding and preceding the January 6 insurrection, an effort that Garland [has] called “the most wide-ranging investigation in its history”.

News reports on Tuesday suggested the inquiry is homing in on Trump’s role.

The Washington Post reported that investigators have specifically questioned witnesses about Trump’s involvement in schemes to overturn the vote, and received the phone records of Trump officials and aides, including former chief of staff, Mark Meadows.

The New York Times also reported that federal investigators had directly questioned witnesses about Trump’s efforts, signaling an escalation.

We live in hope. 🙄

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#2947055 27-Jul-2022 18:47

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With proud American patriots trying to overturn democracy, who needs Russians.

New York Times: ‘Kind of Wild/Creative’: Emails Shed Light on Trump Fake Electors Plan

Previously undisclosed emails provide an inside look at the increasingly desperate and often slapdash efforts by advisers to President Donald J. Trump to reverse his election defeat in the weeks before the Jan. 6 attack, including acknowledgments that a key element of their plan was of dubious legality and lived up to its billing as “fake.”

The dozens of emails among people connected to the Trump campaign, outside advisers and close associates of Mr. Trump show a particular focus on assembling lists of people who would claim — with no basis — to be Electoral College electors on his behalf in battleground states that he had lost.

In emails reviewed by The New York Times and authenticated by people who had worked with the Trump campaign at the time, one lawyer involved in the detailed discussions repeatedly used the word “fake” to refer to the so-called electors, who were intended to provide Vice President Mike Pence and Mr. Trump’s allies in Congress a rationale for derailing the congressional process of certifying the outcome. And lawyers working on the proposal made clear they knew that the pro-Trump electors they were putting forward might not hold up to legal scrutiny.

“We would just be sending in ‘fake’ electoral votes to Pence so that ‘someone’ in Congress can make an objection when they start counting votes, and start arguing that the ‘fake’ votes should be counted,” Jack Wilenchik, a Phoenix-based lawyer who helped organize the pro-Trump electors in Arizona, wrote in a Dec. 8, 2020, email to Boris Epshteyn, a strategic adviser for the Trump campaign.

In a follow-up email, Mr. Wilenchik wrote that “‘alternative’ votes is probably a better term than ‘fake’ votes,” adding a smiley face emoji.
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#2947069 27-Jul-2022 19:22

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I guess with all things Trumpworld, eventually the acolytes all turn on each other, and it's every man (or woman) for himself (or herself) - Trump included.

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#2947115 27-Jul-2022 21:27

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I love it when Retrumplicans are shot down by their own arguments: Brett Kavanaugh, who voted to strike down Roe v. Wade on originalist grounds (there is no constitutional right to abortion), was upset at having his dinner interrupted by protestors. A legal analysis shows that There Is No Constitutional Right to Eat Dinner.

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As I mentioned earlier, I'm in the middle of Thank You for Your Servitude. It's actually really funny IMO and quite well written.

One passage stuck out at me this morning. Remember when back in 2016 Trump said he could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot someone and it wouldn't affect his standing? This turned into what became a (depressingly) familiar cycle whenever someone challenged him or attacked something he said, as outlined here (brief excerpt):

The Fifth Avenue line was mostly taken as an absurd exaggeration when Trump first said it. Four years on, it sounded entirely plausible. Putting the legal particulars of presidential immunity aside, if Trump literally did shoot someone on the street (say, in downtown Palm Beach), here's what likely would happen: He would immediately cry self-defense, make up some claim that his victim was a “protester” and was “harassing” him. Citizen Trump was simply exercising his “rights” as a peace-loving gun owner. He felt threatened. He did nothing wrong.

Within hours, some pro-Trump media outlet would perhaps find a picture of the victim at a Black Lives Matter rally from a few years ago. Within days, the victim would be dubbed “a dangerous radical protester,” or some such, by a Fox host. The various pro-Trump smear brigades would assume their positions. Blizzards of lies about the victim would blow through social media. Don Jr. would “like” a bunch of them.

Hannity would blame the “radical woke police,” Cruz would blame “the protesters,” and the mourning family would be inundated with death threats. Trump would hail the “record-breaking crowd” at his next rally and brag that he was fighting back against being “canceled” over this latest hoax. A majority of Republican voters would remain “loyal” to Trump and an even bigger majority of elected Republicans would desperately try to avoid the issue. Senator Grassley “didn't see it,” so he couldn't comment.

As depressing as it sounds, this became the norm with Trump running the show. I'm pleased that at least Joe has some semblance of decency and doesn't "release the hounds" if someone challenges him.

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#2947198 28-Jul-2022 09:18

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re "if Trump literally did shoot someone on the street (say, in downtown Palm Beach)"

I see Florida is mentioned. Being Florida someone found it necessary to post this detailed web page.

Only in America

If someone is stealing my [unoccupied] car can I shoot [to kill] them in Florida?

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