Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#3054400 25-Mar-2023 11:47

It's getting worse My bold.

Donald Trump: What kind of person can charge another person, in this case a former President of the United States, who got more votes than any sitting President in history, and leading candidate (by far!) for the Republican Party nomination, with a Crime, when it is known by all that NO Crime has been committed, & also known that potential death & destruction in such a false charge could be catastrophic for our Country? Why & who would do such a thing? Only a degenerate psychopath that truely hates the USA!

I'm not looking forward to the Waco speech.

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#3054413 25-Mar-2023 12:33

gzt: It gets worse. Trump will open his campaign in Waco, Texas on Saturday.

A whacko in Waco, the perfect match.

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#3054441 25-Mar-2023 14:34

The NY Times - Former Trump Officials Must Testify in 2020 Election Inquiry, Judge Says

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A federal judge has ruled that a number of former officials from President Donald J. Trump’s administration - including his former chief of staff, Mark Meadows - cannot invoke executive privilege to avoid testifying to a grand jury investigating Mr. Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election. ...

Mr. Meadows was a central player in various efforts to help Mr. Trump reverse the election outcome in a number of contested states.

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#3054713 26-Mar-2023 07:20

https://nypost.com/2023/03/24/trump-wont-change-and-that-shows-he-cant-win/

This is pretty scathing - even more so given it's the New York Post, a Murdoch-owned paper.

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#3054724 26-Mar-2023 08:51

But, looking at a (possible) alternative, the news isn't so great either:

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2023/03/25/is-desantis-ready-for-prime-time-00088836

Now [Ron] DeSantis is stepping out of that comfort zone and into more hostile waters. And so far, Lewis is not impressed. DeSantis, he writes, “seems out of his league” and “lacks the killer spirit to vanquish Trump.”

“Slaying a monster like Donald Trump requires a certain presence,” Lewis writes. “DeSantis comes across as a politician who wants to hit his talking points and prove logically why he’s superior to Trump. And the thing is, you don’t slay dragons with logic. You need guts, heart, and a razor-sharp sword (or, in this case, tongue).”

He continues: “The streets are littered with the political corpses of men who seemed eight feet tall and bulletproof before running for president. RICK PERRY was a rock star in Texas before he ran for president. FRED THOMPSON was a literal movie star.” We’re also reminded of SCOTT WALKER, the union-busting Wisconsin governor who was viewed as a 2016 presidential frontrunner before he quickly fizzled out.

Could De Santis face the same fate? Only time will tell. When do the primaries start again? Not until later this year, right?

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#3054879 26-Mar-2023 11:55

ORLANDO (The Borowitz Report)—Offering a vehement defense of Donald J. Trump, Representative Kevin McCarthy told reporters that the former President should not be indicted, because “most if not almost all Americans” pay porn stars.

“What you use your personal money for is your own personal business,” the Speaker of the House said during a break at a G.O.P. retreat. “If you want to pay for a haircut, fine. If you want to pay for a car wash, also fine. And, if you want to pay a porn star, well, that’s fine, too, and pretty much every American does it.”

Asked if he had ever paid a porn star, McCarthy said, “Well, uh..no. But, because of the way George Soros has weaponized this prosecution against Donald Trump, I think I’m going to start paying porn stars to show my solidarity with an innocent man.”

Although McCarthy’s words drew support from many within the G.O.P., he received pushback from one prominent House Republican. “Only an idiot pays for pussy,” said Representative Matt Gaetz.

'Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.' Voltaire

'A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.' Edward Abbey

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#3054900 26-Mar-2023 15:36

The NY Times - Trump Puts His Legal Peril at Center of First Big Rally for 2024

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WACO, Texas - Former President Donald J. Trump spent much of his first major political rally of the 2024 campaign portraying his expected indictment by a New York grand jury as a result of what he claimed was a Democratic conspiracy to persecute him, arguing wildly that the United States was turning into a “banana republic.”

As a crowd in Waco, Texas, waved red-and-white signs with the words “Witch Hunt” behind him, Mr. Trump devoted long stretches of his speech to his own legal jeopardy rather than his vision for a second term, casting himself as a victim of “weaponization” of the justice system. ...

The speech underscored how Mr. Trump tends to frame the nation’s broader political stakes heavily around whatever issues personally affect him the most. ...

No surprises there, then 🧐

EDIT: Radio NZ / Reuters - Trump rails against 'demonic forces,' 'Deep State' in Texas rally

"Trump is walking on a high wire without a net, telegraphing that he has nothing to lose and is willing to risk dangerous outcomes to rally support."

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#3054949 26-Mar-2023 16:43

Realistically if he's convicted for the Stormy Daniels payment it's just a mugshot and a fine isn't it?

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#3054968 26-Mar-2023 19:15

Suppose they are looking at what Michael Cohen got for making the payment for Trump.
He got jail time for following Trumps instruction on his behalf.

Trump the benefactor of this payment who directed the payment be made.
Then re-embursed Michael Cohen out of campaign money not reported to FEC etc,
is probably in similar if not greater jeopardy?

We shall see I guess. One rule for the lackey one rule for the boss.
Home detention on a Golf Course would suit Trump.

He would be right at home if they put him in the same wing as the Jan 6th people. :-)

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#3054975 26-Mar-2023 19:53

re Trump's rally, him and Winston must both be taking a page from the same playbook, ie, playing their same, tired, greatest hits over and over. Their followers love it to death, but as for the rest of us? Not so sure on that one.

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#3055049 26-Mar-2023 21:24

https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/03/24/melania-trump-worried-about-barron-as-trump-faces-possible-arrest-ivanka-trump-wants-to-stay-away/

While I think Trump fully deserves everything he (eventually) has coming his way, if I were him I'd be worried about his youngest son, too. Either that or his wife when she's really p'd off with him.

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#3055177 27-Mar-2023 10:18

https://www.politico.com/playbook

"Crazy Town" is right. Is he ever going to get over the fact that he lost in 2020? 🙄

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#3055216 27-Mar-2023 11:36

The NY Times - Opinion - What Did We Learn From Trump’s Waco Rally? He’s Stuck in the Past.

March 26, 2023

[Trump's Waco speech], like so many of his speeches, was a mix of lies, hyperbole, superlatives, invectives, doomsaying, puerile humor and callbacks to old grievances - messaging that operates on multiple levels.

Some of his followers hear a call to arms. Some hear their private thoughts given voice. Others hear the lamentations of a valiant victim. Still others hear a wry jokester poking his finger into the eye of the political establishment. ...

Trump is still exaggerating old accomplishments, re-litigating a lost election and marking enemies for retribution. He’s stuck in a rut.

He has an obsession with enemies, personal, real or perceived. He needs them, otherwise he’s a warrior without a war. ...

[This speech] is the personification of a television rerun, a horror comedy with retro reference ...