Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#3058061 3-Apr-2023 09:55

Michael Cohen Wiretap Cold Open

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With the FBI listening in, Michael Cohen fields calls from Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, Melania Trump, Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner and Stormy Daniels.

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#3058159 3-Apr-2023 11:56

I don't have inside information so can't make predictions, But I am wondering more and more, as has also been increasingly suggested on some media sites, that Trump could possibly be slammed by a very big truck no-one sees coming. While everyone is rabbiting on about the Stormy payments and misdemeanour charges, there is at least a possibility that something very much bigger is in the works and Trump and his legal oompa loompas are going to be absolutely stunned when it hits them. If I was the DA, and I had this in my arsenal, I would do everything possible to not discourage speculation about the triviality of my case. Of course I have no way of knowing that this will happen, but one can always hope. There are a few things that could conceivably turn this into something much different, like Weisselberg deciding to come clean. The grand jury is not confined to indicting Trump on the hush money. It can target any apparent crime that emerges from the investigation.

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#3058186 3-Apr-2023 13:11

Rikkitic: I don't have inside information so can't make predictions, But I am wondering more and more, as has also been increasingly suggested on some media sites, that Trump could possibly be slammed by a very big truck no-one sees coming.

Trump was never personally charged in the Trump Organization/Weisselberg tax fraud case. It's easily possible.

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#3058419 3-Apr-2023 14:06

Rikkitic: Trump could possibly be slammed by a very big truck no-one sees coming. While everyone is rabbiting on about the Stormy payments and misdemeanour charges, there is at least a possibility that something very much bigger is in the works and Trump and his legal oompa loompas are going to be absolutely stunned when it hits them.

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#3058438 3-Apr-2023 14:24

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Excellent! Here's hoping Mike follows up with the rest of the verses 😜

The children were hiding down deep in their beds
While visions of jail cells danced in their heads
And Mel in high fashion and I with my tie
Retired alone to each have a cry

When out on the lawn there arose such a clamour
As FBI agents attacked with a hammer
Away to the window I attempted to scram
But I was too fat and got caught in the jamb

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#3058537 3-Apr-2023 16:43

The Washington Post - In the United States, all eyes are on Tuesday

03 April 2023

That’s when former president Donald Trump is slated to appear for arraignment at a Manhattan courthouse on yet-unspecified criminal charges ...

“Donald Trump is not even a person anymore. He is a symbol,” right-wing commentator Glenn Beck said on Fox News. “He is a symbol of the average, everyday guy that keeps getting screwed every single time.”

How Trump - a real estate mogul, tabloid celebrity and one-term occupant of the Oval Office with a long, checkered record of legal travails - can be equated to “the average, everyday guy” is a feat of imagination perhaps only possible among his base.

While raging against the multiple criminal investigations closing in around him in different jurisdictions, the former president has decided to make lemonade with the lemons he has been handed.

Myriad pundits think the spotlight of the indictment may boost his chances in the 2024 Republican presidential primary. ...

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#3058558 3-Apr-2023 17:45

Thanos was simply misunderstood; he's a nice guy

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#3058559 3-Apr-2023 17:55

Trump's last-ditch threat against his prosecutor's wife backfires

Brian Tyler Cohen discussing Trump's attacks against Alvin Bragg's wife and the judge overseeing the case.

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#3058767 4-Apr-2023 09:00

kingdragonfly: Trump's last-ditch threat against his prosecutor's wife backfires

Brian Tyler Cohen discussing Trump's attacks against Alvin Bragg's wife and the judge overseeing the case

Excellent clip about how and why Trump might be gagged during the coming legal proceedings. Plus if he goes to jail, does his Secret Service detail have to go with him? Well worth a watch.

'Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.' Voltaire

'A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.' Edward Abbey

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#3058770 4-Apr-2023 09:18

Flashing lights and a copter up high
Lit up the compound and brightened the sky
Blinking I looked and what did I see
A prison van and a black SUV

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#3058809 4-Apr-2023 11:47

Published New Zealand time 11:43 am Tuesday

Washington Post: Trump in New York to face criminal charges after hush-money probe

Amid extraordinarily tight security, former president Donald Trump on Monday returned to New York — the city that vaulted him onto the world stage and for decades served as an integral part of his public identity — to be arraigned on criminal charges in an investigation that centered on hush-money payments to an adult-film actress before the 2016 presidential election.

Trump, the first sitting or former U.S. president to be indicted, traveled via motorcade from Mar-a-Lago, his Florida estate, to an airport in West Palm Beach, flew to New York on a Trump jet and then headed to Trump Tower on Fifth Avenue, entering the building from a side street in the late afternoon.

His movements were tracked moment by moment by news helicopters, providing an early taste of the media circus expected during the 24 hours or so that Trump will probably spend in New York, as he surrenders to authorities and faces a judge in a criminal proceeding for the first time.

Trump has said he will turn himself in Tuesday morning and then appear in court to be arraigned before Justice Juan Merchan of the New York Supreme Court. He will then return to Florida, where he plans to make public remarks from Mar-a-Lago on Tuesday night.
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#3058812 4-Apr-2023 11:59

The Night Before Justice

Twas the moment before indictment
And all through the house
Not a creature was stirring, not even a spouse
The shackles were hung near the warden with care
In the hope that the Donald soon would be there

The children were hiding down deep in their beds
While visions of jail cells danced in their heads
And Mel in high fashion and I with my tie
Retired alone to each have a cry

When out on the lawn there arose such a clamour
As FBI agents attacked with a hammer
Away to the window I attempted to scram
But I was too fat and got caught in the jamb

Flashing lights and a copter up high
Lit up the compound and brightened the sky
Blinking I looked and what did I see
A prison van and a black SUV

A special counsel got out of the first
I knew in a moment the news was the worst
More rapid than eagles the lawyers appeared
I whistled, and shouted, and called though I feared

Now Rudy, now Sydney now Evan and James
Christina and Lindsey and many more names
To the court of appeals and higher I say
Dash away! Dash away! Later I’ll pay!

Like a tornado that climate change blows
The lawyers ascended to combat my woes
Up to the door of my home they all flew
With binders of writs and subpoenas too

And then, in a twinkling, I heard at the door
The banging and pounding of agents and more
As I drew in my head, and was turning around
Into the house came a man with a bound

He was dressed all in black, from his head to his boots,
And his clothes were all rumpled like honest men’s suits
Court-ready papers he had in his bag
Ready to serve or his name wasn’t Bragg

His eyes -- how they glared! his dimples enraged!
His cheeks were like fires his anger uncaged
His small bitter mouth was drawn up like a bow,
his words came like arrows, each one a blow

The stump of a pen he held tight in his teeth,
Smoke wafted up as he started to seeth
He had a broad face and a rather large girth,
I shook when he laughed, no way was it mirth

He was chubby and plump, a right angry black man
And I wept when I saw him, I knew I was damned
A glare in his eye and a nod of his head
Told me I would be better off dead

He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work,
And filled all the forms; then turned with a jerk,
And giving the finger and blowing his nose
He left by the door, as everyone knows.

He sprang to his car, to his team gave a whistle,
And away they all flew like the down of a thistle.
But I heard him exclaim, ere he drove out of town,
”Trump you’re a felon and you’re going down!”

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#3058827 4-Apr-2023 12:26

EDIT : Source: The Washington Post - What to expect at Donald Trump’s arraignment in New York (04 April 2023)

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#3058992 4-Apr-2023 14:04

Is that from the federal Justice Department? They missed one possibility. Given Trump's stress level, unhealthy diet, and the snail's pace of US legal proceedings.

Bernstein Injury Law: What Happens to a Lawsuit When the Defendant Dies?
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One such example is the deaths of Matthew Perna and John Steven Anderson. Both these men died while awaiting trial for their roles in the capitol riots.

Matthew Perna pleaded guilty to four counts and entered his plea before accepting an offer from the justice department.

John Steven Anderson was indicted for assaulting police, theft, and civil disorder when he entered the capitol.
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#3058994 4-Apr-2023 14:08

New York Times: Why was Trump indicted by the New York state's Manhattan District Attorney, D.A., over hush money, but not by the federal Justice Department?

One aspect of the Manhattan district attorney’s indictment of former President Trump that has drawn considerable attention is why a local prosecutor brought charges linked to possible violations of federal campaign laws — and why the Justice Department has not.
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In 2018, the Southern District prosecutors brought charges against Mr. Cohen for paying $130,000 in hush money to the porn star Stormy Daniels during the 2016 presidential campaign. During that investigation, the federal prosecutors concluded that Mr. Trump had directed Mr. Cohen to pay off Ms. Daniels to keep her quiet about a sexual liaison she said she had with Mr. Trump. He has denied her assertion.
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Mr. Trump’s defenders have seized on the fact that no federal charges have been brought against the former president in connection with the hush money payment to portray the actions of Mr. Bragg as motivated by partisanship.

The federal prosecutors in Manhattan appear to have briefly considered reviving the inquiry into Mr. Trump in January 2021, just before President Biden was sworn in, but decided against doing so
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The decision not to indict appeared to be rooted in lingering concerns about Mr. Cohen’s credibility and cooperation as a government witness.
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