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  #3118699 21-Aug-2023 17:01
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IMHO, this whole crazy business is heading in exactly the right direction for a 2024 Democratic landslide. 





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  #3118724 21-Aug-2023 17:41
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geekIT:  IMHO, this whole crazy business is heading in exactly the right direction for a 2024 Democratic landslide. 

 

 


[EDIT]  I wish.  But this is assuming that Republican voters see Trump the way that we do.  🙄

 





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  #3118814 21-Aug-2023 20:06
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https://www.rawstory.com/rudy-giuliani-scientific-evidence/

 

Oh, sure, now Rudy has all the evidence of election fraud...and also "evidence" that he reckons will (somehow) exonerate him? 3 years later? Spare me. 🙄

 

Maybe if he didn't waste his money on getting people to search for non-existent election fraud and spent it on, well, actual lawyers, he wouldn't have to go grovelling to Trump for money?


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  #3118823 21-Aug-2023 20:24
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ABC News in the USA: Meadows told special counsel he could not recall Trump ever declassifying Mar-a-Lago docs: Sources

Appearing to contradict former President Donald Trump's primary public defense in the classified documents case, former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows has told special counsel Jack Smith's investigators that he could not recall Trump ever ordering, or even discussing, declassifying broad sets of classified materials before leaving the White House, nor was he aware of any "standing order" from Trump authorizing the automatic declassification of materials taken out of the Oval Office, sources familiar with the matter tell ABC News.

Ever since the FBI's seizure of more than 100 classified documents from his Mar-a-Lago estate last August, Trump has insisted that he declassified all the materials before he left office. The former president now faces 40 separate criminal charges related to his possession of those documents, ranging from unlawful retention of national defense information to various obstruction-related offenses.
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Smith's team has also questioned other witnesses about the references to the war plan document that were dropped from the early draft of Meadows' book, sources say. According to sources, a previous draft of the book written by Meadows' ghostwriter -- who, along with the book's publicist, was present at the meeting with Trump at Bedminster in July 2021 -- specifically referenced a four-page war plan the president was heard referring to in an audio recording from the meeting that he claimed had been produced by the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley. Meadows himself was not at the meeting.

"Wait a minute, let's see here. I just found, isn't that amazing?" Trump says in the recording, later obtained by ABC News. "This totally wins my case, you know. Except it is like, highly confidential. Secret. This is secret information. Look, look at this. This was done by the military and given to me. As president I could have declassified, but now I can't."
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  #3118917 22-Aug-2023 09:18
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The NY Times - Bail for Trump Set at $200,000 in Georgia Election Interference Case

 

21 August 2023

 


Former President Donald J. Trump’s bail was set at $200,000 on Monday in a sprawling racketeering case charging Mr. Trump and 18 associates with election interference in Georgia.

 

The move came as it became clear that Mr. Trump and the other defendants will be required to pay cash upon being booked in Atlanta, which was not the case in the three other criminal cases involving the former president.

 

While defendants have to come up with only 10 percent of the bail amount, even that could prove difficult for some, including Rudolph W. Giuliani, the former personal lawyer for Mr. Trump, who is running out of money because of an array of legal entanglements he faces. ...

 



 

Not to worry - the MAGA faithful will pay for The Don's expenses, as usual.   🙄





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  #3118931 22-Aug-2023 10:01
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The NY Times - Bail for Trump Set at $200,000 in Georgia Election Interference Case

 

21 August 2023

 

Not to worry - the MAGA faithful will pay for The Don's expenses, as usual.   🙄

 

 

From the article:

 

"The costs clearly worry some of the defendants in the Trump case; one of them, Cathy Latham, a former Republican Party official in Georgia who acted as a fake elector for Mr. Trump in 2020, has set up a legal-defense fund, describing herself as “a retired public-school teacher living on a teacher’s pension.” The $3,645 she has initially raised is well short of a $500,000 goal."

 

Oh no! Anyway...





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  #3118932 22-Aug-2023 10:03
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Interesting. The Raw Story websites are polling 'Should Trump be allowed to run for office?' I entered a spare email address and got this result:

 





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  #3118945 22-Aug-2023 10:33
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Mind you, if you asked the MAGA crowd, I get the feeling some of them would crawl over broken glass to vote for the orange buffoon...despite the fact he couldn't care less about any of them 🙄

 

Republicans in general are probably a different story however, probably a bit less support there. I also understand Trump made absolutely 0 effort to win over independent voters as well while he was president, which also helped him lose in 2020. I believe that independents don't tend to have a very positive view of him and his various indictments this time around, either.


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  #3118980 22-Aug-2023 12:31
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MILLIONS EXPECTED TO WATCH WORLD LYING CHAMPIONSHIP

 

SAN FRANCISCO (The Borowitz Report)—Millions are expected to watch two legendary prevaricators face off for the world lying championship this Wednesday night.

 

The event is being characterized in some quarters as a generational struggle, as a fifty-four-year-old upstart seeks to wrest the World Liar's Crown from an aging but still dangerous seventy-seven-year-old.

 

Those who favor the younger man’s chances in this battle of whoppers point to his role in the Dominion Voting Systems defamation lawsuit, which cost $787.5 million, dwarfing the paltry three million dollars the older man paid for defaming E. Jean Carroll.

 

But, according to the renowned promoter Don King, the chance of an upset is precisely what will attract hordes of eyeballs on Wednesday night. “For the millions of Americans who love liars, this is gonna be Ali vs Frazier all over again," he declared.





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  #3118987 22-Aug-2023 13:13
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https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/08/donald-trump-looks-totally-nuts-over-georgia-fraud-claims/ I dunno, I always thought he was totally nuts anyway (or he looked it, at least).


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  #3119077 22-Aug-2023 20:11
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The NY Times - Prosecutors Criticize Trump’s Request for 2026 Trial Date in Jan. 6 Case

 

21 August 20023

 


Federal prosecutors pushed back on Monday against former President Donald J. Trump’s request to postpone his election interference trial in Washington until well into 2026, asserting that his main reason for the delay - the amount of evidence his lawyers have to sort through - was vastly overstated.  ...

 

Mr. Trump has made no secret in private conversations with his aides that he is looking to win the next election as a way to try to solve his array of legal problems. To that end, he has often sought to slow down prosecutors in all four of the criminal cases he is facing.

 

 

 





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  #3119092 22-Aug-2023 21:31
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Note the following is a gambling site, so not kid-safe, not work-safe. Sorry, you can't use chips from the defunct Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts (THCR)

Bet Online: Trump Indictment

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  #3119207 23-Aug-2023 01:49
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There's a lot going on here. You spend a few days on the North Sea coast and the party gets started... 😆





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  #3119220 23-Aug-2023 07:10
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https://www.axios.com/2023/08/22/trump-codefendant-surrender-georgia-jail >> the tratiorous s--tbags have started turning themselves in - although that Clark a-hole (like Meadows) wants to fight it.

 

also: https://www.axios.com/2023/08/22/georgia-fake-elector-trump >> have some of them started turning against the orange buffoon already?


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  #3119228 23-Aug-2023 08:12
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Extra: a look at the "presidential immunity" thing that Trump might try and invoke and the chances of it working (or not):

 

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/08/22/trump-immunity-supreme-court-00112124

 

 


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