Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#3152150 25-Oct-2023 15:35

If hearing Trump's "fixer" Michael Cohen testify doesn't trigger a Trump brain aneurysm, I don't know what will.

The Independent: Trump in court showdown with Cohen as Meadows ‘admits 2020 loss’: Live

Donald Trump sat face to face with Michael Cohen for the first time in years at his $250m civil fraud trial in New York.

Cohen, the former president’s onetime attorney and “fixer”, took the witness stand and testified he had been instructed to fraudulently increase valuations of key Trump assets.

The day ended with a series of heated exchanges as Trump attorney Alina Habba cross-examined the one-time Trump Organization insider.

Shortly after the day in court concluded in New York, news broke that former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows has spoken with special counsel Jack Smith's team multiple times this year, including once before a federal grand jury about 2020 election interference, after he was granted immunity to testify under oath, ABC News reported.

Mr Meadows is said to have informed prosecutors that he repeatedly told Mr Trump after the presidential election that allegations of significant voting fraud were baseless.

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#3152160 25-Oct-2023 15:47

Speaking of which: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/24/michael-cohen-testimony-trump-00123255 >> I bet Trump was absolutely beside himself that he couldn't open his mouth to say anything, such as calling Cohen a liar, for example. He had to sit there and keep his lying mouth shut. That must have absolutely done him in - I bet he was seething! 😄

Meanwhile elsewhere... https://politizoom.com/meadows-sells-trump-out-for-immunity-blows-lid-off-the-big-lie/ >> another one bites the dust?

Rudy, the clock must be ticking for you by now...

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#3152283 26-Oct-2023 08:29

Trump was called to the stand to address remarks he made about Judge Engoron and his court staff earlier outside of the courtroom

The NY Times - Trump Ordered to Pay $10,000 in New Punishment for Breaking Gag Order

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A Manhattan judge ordered Donald J. Trump to the witness stand Wednesday, creating the spectacle of a former president called to account, before finding that Mr. Trump had attacked a court clerk and fining him $10,000.

The judge, Arthur F. Engoron, who is presiding over Mr. Trump’s civil fraud trial, issued the punishment after finding that Mr. Trump earlier in the day had violated an order that prevents him from attacking court staff.

Mr. Trump said that his comments had referred not to Justice Engoron’s law clerk, whom he had previously attacked, but to his own former lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, a witness.

Trump left the stand after about three minutes. Justice Engoron said that he had not found the former president credible and levied the fine.

Wet Bus Ticket #2, and counting ... 😟

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Baby Donald has another tantrum:

The Daily Mail - Donald Trump storms out of trial after judge denies motion to dismiss case and calls him to the stand to fine him $10,000 for violating gag order for a second time

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Donald Trump has stormed out of his $250 million fraud trial after a series of legal blows that saw him fined $10,000 and his request for a directed verdict denied.

In a dramatic courtroom outburst Wednesday afternoon, the former president threw his arms up in the air before getting up and leaving in a huff, sending Secret Service agents chasing after him.

The abrupt departure came shortly after he was fined for a second time for violating a gag order and moments after one of his lawyers finished questioning fixer-turned-foe Michael Cohen ...

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#3152291 26-Oct-2023 09:38

Sideface:Wet Bus Ticket #2, and counting ... 😟

I don't think they even wetted it!

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#3152362 26-Oct-2023 13:05

A more detailed account of Trump's tantrum in court :

The Times (UK) - Donald Trump fined again for breaking fraud trial gag order

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Our New York correspondent watches the ex-president turn crimson as judge clamps down and Michael Cohen compares him to a ‘mob boss’

A judge questioned Donald Trump in court and said he was “not a credible witness” before fining him $10,000 for violating a gag order prohibiting the former American president from making “personal attacks” on court officials during his civil fraud trial in New York.

Judge Arthur Engoron, who had previously warned that Trump could be jailed for breaking his order, added: “Don’t do it again, or it will be worse.”

The episode came midway through a dramatic day of testimony from Michael Cohen, Trump’s one-time attorney, who engaged in a series of feisty exchanges with Trump’s legal team and compared the former president’s business style to that of “a mob boss”. ...

[Following self-contradictory evidence given in court by Cohen] ... Clifford Roberts [Trump's current attorney] turned triumphantly to the judge, saying that in the light of this testimony from a key witness, the case should be thrown out.

“Denied,” the judge replied.

Trump rose to his feet, his face crimson. “I’m leaving,” he growled, and the radios of court officers buzzed into life as he stalked out of the courtroom. ...

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#3152407 26-Oct-2023 14:53

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Trump was called to the stand to address remarks he made about Judge Engoron and his court staff earlier outside of the courtroom

Fair bit of artistic license employed here: Trump looks almost human.

'Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.' Voltaire

'A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.' Edward Abbey

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#3152450 26-Oct-2023 18:27

Trump’s Georgia trial reaches nightmare status with new development

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#3152461 26-Oct-2023 19:22

More of today's Trump horrible day, and the horrible day for Americans with a new House Speaker, but with a comedian!

New GOP speaker was a January 6 insurrection architect; More Trump allies testify against him

Late Night with Seth Meyers: : A Closer Look

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#3152478 26-Oct-2023 22:13

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/26/politics/trump-legal-system-rules-2024/index.html >> I bet he doesn't! But yet I love watching the a-hole squirm in front of a judge. Does that make me a bad person?

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#3152480 26-Oct-2023 22:25

Nah, valid schadenfreude.

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#3152489 27-Oct-2023 03:17

POP QUIZ: (The NY Times, today)

This week, Trump compared himself to a South African Nobel Peace Prize winner who served time in prison for his battles against apartheid. (“I don’t mind being Nelson Mandela, because I’m doing it for a reason.”)

He’s also compared himself to:

A) Abraham Lincoln
B) Jesus
C) George Washington
D) The Mona Lisa

The answer is everybody but Jesus. And he did recently post a sketch on Truth Social showing Christ next to him in the courtroom.

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#3152720 27-Oct-2023 13:07

Viewed in a completely non-political way, the question arises anyway as to how long the world can continue to afford the overrich and kleptocrats.

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#3152748 27-Oct-2023 14:43

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/special-counsel-seizes-trumps-provocative-rhetoric-meadows-rcna122291

Oh look, the orange buffoon can't help himself but open his stupid lying mouth again, and get himself into trouble, again 🙄

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#3152755 27-Oct-2023 14:48

Trump, noticing all his friends and family, have unexpectedly disappeared. The hairs on his neck begin to rise, like someone is watching him. His eyes are darting, and he says nervously : "it's quiet... too quiet..."

Washington Post: Special counsel Jack Smith pulls subpoena over pro-Trump fundraising

Special counsel Jack Smith has withdrawn a subpoena seeking records about fundraising by the political action committee Save America — a group that is controlled by former president Donald Trump and whose activities related to efforts to block the results of the 2020 presidential election have come under investigation, people familiar with the matter said.

The withdrawal of the subpoena earlier this month indicates Smith is scaling back at least part of his inquiry into the political fundraising work that fed and benefited from unfounded claims that the election was stolen, said the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing criminal investigation.

Save America was still working to gather all of the records sought in the subpoena when it was notified by Smith’s office that the demand for information had been withdrawn, two of the people familiar with the matter said. The federal indictment of Trump filed in August, which charged him with four counts related to alleged obstruction of the 2020 election, does not refer specifically to Save America.
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While interviewing potential witnesses associated with Trump, Smith’s prosecutors have asked pointed questions about who is paying for their lawyers and why, people familiar with the questions have said. Trump advisers have said the Save America PAC, which raises most of its money through small-dollar contributions by Trump supporters across the country, is footing the legal bills for almost anyone drawn into the Trump investigations who requests help from the former president and his advisers.
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#3152776 27-Oct-2023 15:37

The mini me House speaker

The NY Times - Opinion - Trumpism Is Running the House

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The three-week battle to choose a House speaker may be over, yet the fallout for the United States and its reputation as a sound government and a beacon of democracy will be long-lasting and profound.

The Republicans in the House unanimously voted for a man who made it his mission to try to overturn the 2020 presidential election, who put the political whims and needs of former President Donald Trump ahead of the interests and will of the American people. ...

Donald Trump may not be in the White House, but Trumpism as an institution has transcended the man and provided the operating principles for the House of Representatives and much of the Republican Party.

Those operating principles include allowing Mr. Trump to all but select the speaker, and elevating, in Mr. Johnson, one of the party’s most prominent election deniers. ...

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