sir1963:

 

are childless, they do not get a tax break, yet they pay for someone else's child to be education, get medical care etc etc etc.

 

Meantime the kids also get free dental, children's prices for things, etc, ie the benefits of being a child. At what age to they become "adults" ?, why not a year younger ?

 

Kids are NOT being targeted

 

Childless here too, and I am happy to give back to New Zealand's kids, both current and future.
I am stoked if my money is going towards someones kids education, medical, dental, etc (whatever that kid needs to be a successful person, that wants to be a kiwi).
I don't give a flying toss if their parents can/could afford it or not.

Those kids and their future is a social investment. I would be proud of having any of my tax dollars going to them, instead of another road.
I don't intend to have any kids myself...... but if i do have kids or step kids that come into my life then, then I guess my tax money will be helping them too and that is just a bonus. 

Kids are totally being targeted as Luxon's political talking point here.

I remember back in my day and I am sure every GZ member can remember back to their youth when they were told they are the problem.
It's always easy to dumpster on kids/youths as a problem (Rock N Rock, Comic Books, PokeMon, Anime, Video Games all the stuff blamed for promblems of the day).

People do it because it is easy and kids/youths can't defend themselves, it is shameful.
I remember my generation being called slack and worthless and causing problems, for what? a skirt too high? some facial hair, an earring, footware?

My point remains there is no good reason why banning phones in schools needs to be a law, 
and saying that without banning phones as a law, Teachers who are in public schools would be doing a "garbage job" is straigh up disgraceful. 

Sorry GZ members for the tone of this message but I felt heated to call out a straw man argument, my apologies if I went too far.

My arguement is not that phones should be in school(s), my argument is it shouldn't be a law. It should be left up to the school and their community, not 3 old farts.

We are not going to see eye to eye on this point, so this will be my last reply on this matter to you.