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  #2374470 12-Dec-2019 22:36
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She conveniently seems to have forgotten 1992. John Major vs Neil Kinnock vs Paddy Ashdown




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  #2374503 13-Dec-2019 07:01
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Boris Johnson 'hides in a fridge' to avoid Piers Morgan interview

Tory aide swears at Good Morning Britain producer who approached PM during pre-dawn visit to dairy

The Guardian, by Heather Stewart and Aamna Mohdin

Boris Johnson retreated into a fridge as he sought to avoid a TV interview, amid rattled nerves at CCHQ over a narrowing in the opinion polls.

The prime minister was ambushed by the Good Morning Britain producer, Jonathan Swain, during a pre-dawn visit to Modern Milkman, a business in the Tory-held constituency of Pudsey, in Yorkshire.

When Swain first approached Johnson, he asked: “Morning prime minister, would you come on Good Morning Britain, prime minister?”

...When Swain presses the prime minister, stating he was live on the show, Johnson replied “I’ll be with you in a second” and walked off, before Piers exclaims “he’s gone into the fridge”. Johnson walks inside a fridge stacked with milk bottles with his aides....

Conservative sources subsequently insisted that Johnson was “categorically not hiding” in the fridge, from which Johnson emerged carrying a crate of milk bottles – but instead his aides were taking a moment to prep the PM for a separate, pre-agreed interview.

During the exchange, Swain asked if Johnson would come on the programme and “deliver on your promise to talk to Piers and Susanna. We’re ready to go, we’re live on ITV right now. Prime minister, we have an earpiece in my pocket. You are more than welcome to come on.”

Swain told Morgan and Reid that he was being pushed and shoved by one of the minders. “It’s a very frosty reception we’ve had so far,” Swain said after Johnson disappeared
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  #2374630 13-Dec-2019 11:15
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Early exit polls are suggesting a massive victory for Boris, much as many of the polls were suggesting.

 

 




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  #2374639 13-Dec-2019 11:33
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Exit polls suggesting a majority of 86 for Johnson. Best result for Tories since 1987. Worst result for Labour in modern history.

 

Bye bye Jeremy.


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  #2374722 13-Dec-2019 13:08
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If the exit polls are correct, the SNP wins 55 (out of 59) seats.

 

That doesn't bode well for a "United" Kingdom.


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  #2374815 13-Dec-2019 15:04
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The SNP need the approval of the UK Government for another independence referendum. They won't get it while Johnson is PM.


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  #2374822 13-Dec-2019 15:18
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SJB:

 

The SNP need the approval of the UK Government for another independence referendum. They won't get it while Johnson is PM.

 

 

That's correct. That's also probably why the SNP has done so well - apart from Brexit being unpopular there.

 

It's somewhat of a moral dilemna, given the mandate BJ has been given to leave the EU having it's origin in a referendum.  But BJ is clearly far above letting morality impact on his fabulous career.

 

It'll be interesting to see how it's perceived in Scotland over time.  I have a suspicion that if BJ is perceived to be gloating and telling Scotland to suck it up because it's the "will of the people", it'll turn ugly - and the more forceful Conservatives try to be as a reaction, the uglier it'll get.

 

But hey, perhaps BJ will turn into a nice honest guy.


 
 
 

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  #2374824 13-Dec-2019 15:21
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So will this mean that we get an FTA, CANZUK?  A resurrection of the empire - except countries where brown people are a majority don't get an invite?


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  #2374833 13-Dec-2019 15:45
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The CANZUK Union Explained - Explaining Brexit


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  #2374883 13-Dec-2019 16:46
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Fred99:

 

It'll be interesting to see how it's perceived in Scotland over time.  I have a suspicion that if BJ is perceived to be gloating and telling Scotland to suck it up because it's the "will of the people", it'll turn ugly - and the more forceful Conservatives try to be as a reaction, the uglier it'll get.

 

But hey, perhaps BJ will turn into a nice honest guy.

 

 

I can't see Johnson gloating. He's not Trump.

 

Nor will it turn nasty. At the last independence referendum it was something like 60-40 against and apparently its now 55-45 for so it's not like a huge majority of the population want independence. The independence issue for Scots is as divisive as brexit is across the UK.


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  #2374885 13-Dec-2019 16:50
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The leader of the Lib Dems has lost her seat. Priceless.


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  #2374920 13-Dec-2019 17:49
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I went to look at the results - and Google have made my day:

 


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  #2375001 13-Dec-2019 19:22

It’s like 2016 all over again. Posts all over Twitter blaming the result on the old, racist, ignorant .......

Too hard to try and figure out why people voted the way they did. Maybe Corbyn should write a book and spend the next couple of years doing a tour coming up with various reasons as to why he lost. Should he start with the Russians first or has that been done to death?

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  #2375009 13-Dec-2019 19:45
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Too hard to try and figure out why people voted the way they did.

 

Nothing at all hard about it.

 

You scare the bejesus out of people by exaggerating a threat, lie about having the solution - that you'll take them back to a safe place that never really existed - and get a little help from influential friends.

 

 

 

 


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  #2375010 13-Dec-2019 19:47

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marmel: 

Too hard to try and figure out why people voted the way they did.


Nothing at all hard about it.


You scare the bejesus out of people by exaggerating a threat, lie about having the solution - that you'll take them back to a safe place that never really existed - and get a little help from influential friends.


 


 



Ok so you are going with the “all centre right voters are ignorant” reasoning, thanks for clearing that up.

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