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#3055932 28-Mar-2023 18:41

Paul1977: Would you be as eager to give the benefit of the doubt if a cis white man made a similar statement about a different demographic?

Would you be as eager to put the knife in if the person involved was a prominent right-wing politician?

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#3055933 28-Mar-2023 18:45

In any case, Chris Hipkins may have other things on his mind now. It looks like Stuart Nash is just the gift that keeps on giving.

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#3055942 28-Mar-2023 19:08

Nash is toast.

Yes 2020 is a while back, but like M Davidson, we see a glimpse into the personal mindset

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#3055960 28-Mar-2023 21:06

tdgeek:

Nash is toast.

Yes 2020 is a while back, but like M Davidson, we see a glimpse into the personal mindset

I am amazed that he rose to the positions he had anyway. He clearly is not the brightest spark. Maybe someone had been holding him close.

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#3055970 28-Mar-2023 21:26

Rikkitic:
Paul1977: Would you be as eager to give the benefit of the doubt if a cis white man made a similar statement about a different demographic?

Would you be as eager to put the knife in if the person involved was a prominent right-wing politician?

If a prominent right wing politician said the same or equivalent he would be gone by now without question.

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#3055973 28-Mar-2023 21:29

Rikkitic:
Paul1977: Would you be as eager to give the benefit of the doubt if a cis white man made a similar statement about a different demographic?

Would you be as eager to put the knife in if the person involved was a prominent right-wing politician?

Actually I would. I can’t stand when people say something and then either walk it back or offer an insincere apology when there’s backlash. And politicians (from any party) are some of the worst.

I don’t agree with what she said, but she’s perfectly entitled to hold that belief and voice it publicly. She’d never get my vote, but frankly I’d respect her a lot more if she was honest and stuck to her guns.

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#3059249 5-Apr-2023 10:45

The Cabinet Ministers that just keep on giving. Why do they do this to themselves.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/andrew-little-weighs-in-on-kiri-allans-rnz-farewell-speech-for-host-partner-mani-dunlop/R77PIKCGT5CTVHDYV3MTJSZ5LA/

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#3059263 5-Apr-2023 11:21

Technofreak:

The Cabinet Ministers that just keep on giving. Why do they do this to themselves.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/andrew-little-weighs-in-on-kiri-allans-rnz-farewell-speech-for-host-partner-mani-dunlop/R77PIKCGT5CTVHDYV3MTJSZ5LA/

Fault lies with the PMO for not properly training new ministers. This sort of stuff should be drummed into them on the first day.

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#3059350 5-Apr-2023 13:34

johno1234:

Technofreak:

The Cabinet Ministers that just keep on giving. Why do they do this to themselves.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/andrew-little-weighs-in-on-kiri-allans-rnz-farewell-speech-for-host-partner-mani-dunlop/R77PIKCGT5CTVHDYV3MTJSZ5LA/

Fault lies with the PMO for not properly training new ministers. This sort of stuff should be drummed into them on the first day.

True, but you'd think basic intelligence and common sense would dictate you didn't make public statements like that, especially for areas outside of your area of responsibility.

In my opinion it shows a basic lack of aptitude for the role, and reinforces the view of the lack of competence within the cabinet.

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#3059353 5-Apr-2023 13:42

Technofreak:

True, but you'd think basic intelligence and common sense would dictate you didn't make public statements like that, especially for areas outside of your area of responsibility.

In my opinion it shows a basic lack of aptitude for the role, and reinforces the view of the lack of competence within the cabinet.

I take your point but mate, we're talking about politicians here.

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#3059887 6-Apr-2023 18:21

Not sure a separate thread is warranted but having a wee giggle at the current Greens malaise.

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#3059911 6-Apr-2023 20:19

GV27: Not sure a separate thread is warranted but having a wee giggle at the current Greens malaise.

Indeed! First Marama now Elizabeth. Loose lips sink ships.

If they didn’t have Chloe they’d be completely stuffed.

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#3059957 6-Apr-2023 20:29

johno1234:
GV27: Not sure a separate thread is warranted but having a wee giggle at the current Greens malaise.

Indeed! First Marama now Elizabeth. Loose lips sink ships.

If they didn’t have Chloe they’d be completely stuffed.

What a lot of glee over a couple of verbal own goals. Ha ha I can see your underwear!

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#3060162 7-Apr-2023 17:44

Rikkitic:

What a lot of glee over a couple of verbal own goals. Ha ha I can see your underwear!

Yep, its all partisan and immature. Hopefully David Seymour will be PM soon to give us direction...

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#3060299 8-Apr-2023 12:23

Rikkitic:
What a lot of glee over a couple of verbal own goals. Ha ha I can see your underwear!

Probably shouldn't have lied to media and tried to lie about it ever happening when they asked her then, because that's a whole different issue.

The Greens told her to go home and stay there, this doesn't reflect badly on anyone but her.

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