Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#1724323 22-Feb-2017 11:18

Fred99:

MikeB4:

Sarah Palin was awesome

Yup - she's also perfectly climatically evolved - oops created by God - to serve as US ambassador to Canada.

She would have been the best President in four decades

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#1724383 22-Feb-2017 12:30

She wouldn't be able to see Russia from the White House.

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#1724388 22-Feb-2017 12:36

Rikkitic:

She wouldn't be able to see Russia from the White House.

I am not sure she would know where Russia is

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#1724391 22-Feb-2017 12:41

tdgeek:

I was thinking along the lines that as more and more Republican Senators and others go against Trump that it might be someone who puts their hand up, gets support and numbers and seeks to overthrow Trump. For the GOP they would want a new POTUS with some credibility to take to the next election. Along the lines of OZ's frequent overthrows. Assuming that fits into the Constitution. An impeachment is more longer shot, frought with issues I would have thought

Because of the way the constitution is set up, it is really difficult to remove an uncooperative president, and it probably wouldn't make much difference anyway since every conceivable route leads to the vice-president taking over. So Trump could theoretically be removed, but that would just mean putting Pence in his place. The only way to get around that would be to remove Pence, have Trump appoint a new veep (as happened with Nixon), then have Trump resign. Somehow I just don't see Trump appointing McCain (or anyone else, really). It is not like the system in Australia, where PMs play musical chairs.

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#1724399 22-Feb-2017 12:56

Rikkitic:

...since every conceivable route leads to the vice-president taking over. So Trump could theoretically be removed, but that would just mean putting Pence in his place.

I suspect that Pence, at least, would tow the party line and essentially just do what the party told him too.

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#1724401 22-Feb-2017 13:00

Paul1977:

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...since every conceivable route leads to the vice-president taking over. So Trump could theoretically be removed, but that would just mean putting Pence in his place.

I suspect that Pence, at least, would tow the party line and essentially just do what the party told him too.

Well , he should be leading a party that is the collective mind, not joining the party and doing what one person wants instead, although that appears to be the case

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#1724425 22-Feb-2017 13:37

MikeB4:

Fred99:

tdgeek:

I was thinking along the lines that as more and more Republican Senators and others go against Trump that it might be someone who puts their hand up, gets support and numbers and seeks to overthrow Trump. For the GOP they would want a new POTUS with some credibility to take to the next election. Along the lines of OZ's frequent overthrows. Assuming that fits into the Constitution. An impeachment is more longer shot, frought with issues I would have thought

Replacing a PM is relatively straight forward.

Apart from the fact that Trump would either have to resign, be impeached and convicted, or be removed from office with VP and congressional consent under section 4 of the 25th Amendment, dumping Trump would be short and mdium-term suicide for the GOP - or could be even worse - a terminal blow.

Some number of people - around or less than 40% of US voters polled - still "approve" of the POTUS despite his behavior. Some smaller but significant number of them more than "approve" - they strongly (understatement) support him and show no signs of accepting any valid criticism of him at all. Just say that's 30% - but that probably means that it's 60% of GOP voters.

At this time, there's no way that the GOP will move against Trump.

I agree the Republicans are not going to dump Mr Trump anytime soon, they have The Senate and Congress if that were to change then maybe there a ground swell to remove could happen.

2018 is the big test for Trump , with the elections for congress and the senate taking place in November , if the public are sick of trump they will vote in the democrats to a majority in both places and then Trump will be a lame duck president and wont be able to get any policies through.

Common sense is not as common as you think.

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#1724428 22-Feb-2017 13:41

Haha that will be funny, videos of him rolling around the floor kicking and screaming about his policies not going through.

On a serious note, he will get the Russians to help him so that he stays on good control.

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#1724468 22-Feb-2017 14:00

Rikkitic:

She wouldn't be able to see Russia from the White House.

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#1724490 22-Feb-2017 14:34

Rikkitic:

tdgeek:

I was thinking along the lines that as more and more Republican Senators and others go against Trump that it might be someone who puts their hand up, gets support and numbers and seeks to overthrow Trump. For the GOP they would want a new POTUS with some credibility to take to the next election. Along the lines of OZ's frequent overthrows. Assuming that fits into the Constitution. An impeachment is more longer shot, frought with issues I would have thought

Because of the way the constitution is set up, it is really difficult to remove an uncooperative president, and it probably wouldn't make much difference anyway since every conceivable route leads to the vice-president taking over. So Trump could theoretically be removed, but that would just mean putting Pence in his place. The only way to get around that would be to remove Pence, have Trump appoint a new veep (as happened with Nixon), then have Trump resign. Somehow I just don't see Trump appointing McCain (or anyone else, really). It is not like the system in Australia, where PMs play musical chairs.

Tks. 4 years it is.

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#1724492 22-Feb-2017 14:37

joker97: Haha that will be funny, videos of him rolling around the floor kicking and screaming about his policies not going through.

Like now, Ban was squished, doing it again. Still working on the wall details, no chatter on that lately. No word on trade. No word on anything except rants

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#1724498 22-Feb-2017 15:13

Can Congress Get President Trump’s Tax Returns?
by Andy Grewal

"During the 2016 election, Donald Trump became the first major Presidential candidate in recent history to refuse to disclose his tax returns, citing ongoing IRS audits. Since taking office, President Trump has indicated that he will continue to keep his tax returns secret, arguing that only the media, and not the voters, care about them.

In a recent Washington Post article, Professor George Yin argues that Congress can force Trump to make his returns available for legislative review. Legislators have embraced similar arguments"

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#1724500 22-Feb-2017 15:15

I see riots have now occurred in Sweden. Maybe Trump was just being prophetic.

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#1724502 22-Feb-2017 15:20

tdgeek:
MikeB4:

tdgeek:

The he will be gone, back to normal. With little real effect.

The effects of the Trump era will be real and very long term. His denial of climate change and planned roll back of protections may well doom the planet. Time is running out and the climate change tipping point grows ever closer. This is by far the biggest risk we face with this President and the issue that should greatly concern all as it not only impacts us but all future generations.

If he lasted a term, the next POTUS will correct his doings, and if he lasted till end of this year, the same. Now, if his term was 8 years, and he was less of an idiot so wont get removed, yes, that would be a worry as its 8 years wasted, but IMHO, his actions are very short term, and the bad actions will be reversed pronto. No doubt that will be a campaign promise of whoever gets the GOP numbers to enact a coup/takeover/revolt. They should talk to OZ, they have plenty of experience there!

Reversing climate impact actions like opening additional coal mines seems unlikely. Contracts will be signed, unsustainable jobs created, voters will want to keep them. If not unlikely, then very very slow.

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#1724503 22-Feb-2017 15:24

tdgeek:
I was thinking along the lines that as more and more Republican Senators and others go against Trump that it might be someone who puts their hand up, gets support and numbers and seeks to overthrow Trump. For the GOP they would want a new POTUS with some credibility to take to the next election. Along the lines of OZ's frequent overthrows. Assuming that fits into the Constitution. An impeachment is more longer shot, frought with issues I would have thought

As I mentioned previously some will be up for re-election (us elections are staggered) and they will either fear being rolled by Trump and replaced with a Trump freindly candidate, or will be welcoming additional Trump related votes for good behaviour. I can't say I've studied this, and their positions will vary by state, but Trump obviously has an influence there.

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