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#2476245 4-May-2020 12:42

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The only reason anybody would want to vote for Biden is that they don't want Trump. What a desperately depressing scenario if you are an American.

OTH for anybody who is not an American (ie all us normal people) it is a vivid demonstration that the the USA has relinquished the role of 'world leader', a post it has so often considered itself to hold.

Trump's current rating is the highest I've ever recalled.

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#2476253 4-May-2020 13:02

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Trump's current rating is the highest I've ever recalled.

As usual, you make an assertion with nothing whatsoever to back it up. You might as well say Trump enjoys sex with zebras. It makes just as much sense and has just as much value.

According to Gallup, his current approval rating had risen to 49% as of 28 April. Rasmussen gives him 45% as of 1 May. The rating has gone up, as it has gone up and down in the past, though disapproval is still higher (53% according to Rasmussen). It also depends on which poll you consult, as well as what day.

These figures on their own don't mean much. Trends matter more. And your habit of pulling assertions out of your backside with no sources don't mean anything at all.

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#2476269 4-May-2020 13:27

Batman: Trump's current rating is the highest I've ever recalled.

Donald Trump is that you? ; ). But seriously, let's keep this topic on the contenders and their policies please.

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#2476318 4-May-2020 14:20

Rikkitic:

Batman:

Trump's current rating is the highest I've ever recalled.

As usual, you make an assertion with nothing whatsoever to back it up. You might as well say Trump enjoys sex with zebras. It makes just as much sense and has just as much value.

According to Gallup, his current approval rating had risen to 49% as of 28 April. Rasmussen gives him 45% as of 1 May. The rating has gone up, as it has gone up and down in the past, though disapproval is still higher (53% according to Rasmussen). It also depends on which poll you consult, as well as what day.

These figures on their own don't mean much. Trends matter more. And your habit of pulling assertions out of your backside with no sources don't mean anything at all.

i quote wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_approval_rating#Historical_comparison

if this is really the highest it's ever been, then what's the Dem's plan is what I'm asking

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#2476322 4-May-2020 14:22

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Batman: Trump's current rating is the highest I've ever recalled.

Donald Trump is that you? ; ). But seriously, let's keep this topic on the contenders and their policies please.

Ok, sure. I'm being as factual as wikipedia allows (see prev reply). I don't understand why they don't bring in someone who can compete with Trump. They are sticking with Joe.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/nancy-pelosi-defends-joe-biden-from-tara-reades-sexual-assault-accusation-2020-4

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#2476438 4-May-2020 16:00

Batman:

Ok, sure. I'm being as factual as wikipedia allows (see prev reply). I don't understand why they don't bring in someone who can compete with Trump. They are sticking with Joe.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/nancy-pelosi-defends-joe-biden-from-tara-reades-sexual-assault-accusation-2020-4

That is a valid question. The answer is because the Democrats went out of their way to stage a democratic nomination process with an excessive number of candidates which also didn't help them but which had to be done to avoid any perception of an undemocratic process, unlike what happened with Hilary Clinton over Bernie Sanders the last time. Joe Biden is the candidate because that was the result of the process. The process was as fair as this kind of thing can be. If someone else should have been chosen, someone else would have been chosen. To override that now would achieve exactly what the party has been trying to avoid. The only acceptable way that could happen at this late stage is if proof actually emerged that Biden had done what he is accused of having done.

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#2476666 4-May-2020 22:50

Trump has made this a non-issue with many voters. The Democratic Party caucus process elected Biden as the 2020 candidate. The majority in the Democratic Party believe Biden is the best candidate for the electorate and win against Trump.

Needless to say there is a lot riding on Biden's VP selection. The smart move would be someone active and technical like Warren who can really contribute both to the campaign and handle technical details of policy development.

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#2476668 4-May-2020 23:03

Wait a sec - Warren hasn't been chosen has she? (referring to thread title)

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#2476705 5-May-2020 08:26

No VP has been announced. They will probably do it shortly before the convention. The only thing we know is the campaign has said they want a female VP fairly early in the primary process.

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#2483290 14-May-2020 02:58

The donor class, that owns Biden, simply will not allow him to choose Warren

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#2488976 21-May-2020 22:43

the dirt digging goes global https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/20/ukraine-joe-biden-petro-poroshenko-recordings-investigation

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#2490054 23-May-2020 13:20

Biden in an interview:

told a popular African-American radio host that anyone struggling to decide whether to support him or President Donald Trump in the general election "ain't black."

That's stupid, thoughtless, tone-deaf and almost certainly counter-productive. He's a liability. Should not be running - it's crazy.
Has a similar ring to Clinton's "deplorables" mistake. They need to focus solely on Trump and the pack of crooks in the WH - not attack Trump voters and alienate them.

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#2490058 23-May-2020 13:24

This guy has listed Kamala twice on his list:

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/21/politics/biden-vp-kamala-harris-amy-klobuchar-elizabeth-warren/index.html

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#2490059 23-May-2020 13:28

I was watching Biden on Colbert last night. He is a terrible speaker. He fumbles and waffles all over the place, even in a friendly environment when what he is trying to say makes sense. I'm afraid Trump may eat him alive in the debates. Trump doesn't have to make sense or say things that aren't offensive. He is like a bulldozer and just ploughs on regardless. He did this to Hillary and he will do it to Joe Biden.

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#2490063 23-May-2020 14:11

I thought he was pretty good debating against Sarah Palin in 2008...but that was 12 years ago, and it looks like a lot has changed since then. Plus, she was (or came across as) quite uneducated. But this was in the pre-Trump era, too - although some commentators have said that McCain choosing her set the stage for a Trump presidency.

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